City of Columbia, Missouri  
Meeting Minutes - Final  
Housing and Community Development Commission  
Room 1A/B, City Hall,  
701 E Broadway  
Wednesday, April 10, 2024  
Regular Meeting  
7:00 PM  
I. CALL TO ORDER  
Rose called the meeting to order at 7:01 p.m.  
II. INTRODUCTIONS  
Present at the start of the meeting were Board members Rose, Ascani, Ritter, McIntosh,  
Fletcher, Nguyen, Shaw, Pefferman, and Kasmann. City staff Deaver, Thompson,  
Amelunke, and Graham were also in attendance.  
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Present:  
Michael Fletcher, Mitchell Ritter, Ross Kasmann, Thomas Rose, Rebecca Shaw,  
Rikki Ascani, Erica Pefferman, Jay McIntosh and Michael Nguyen  
MR. ROSE: And we'll start off with introductions to my right.  
MS. DEAVER: Do you want to start --  
MS. GRAHAM: Oh, I'm sorry. I'm Tracy Graham. I just started this week. I'm the  
admin tech. And that’s kind of where --  
MR. ROSE: Okay.  
MS. THOMPSON: I'm Rebecca Thompson, and I'm the director of the Housing  
Neighborhood Services Department.  
MS. DEAVER: Jennifer Deaver, City Staff.  
MR. AMELUNKE: Jake Amelunke, City Staff.  
MS. ASCANI: Rikki Ascani.  
MR. ROSE: What ward to you represent? Are you at large?  
MS. ASCANI: Yeah. I don't know if I'm ward or at large, but if was, Ward 1.  
MR. ROSE: I think you -- okay.  
MR. RITTER: Mitch Ritter, Ward 2.  
MR. ROSE: Tom Rose, Ward 5.  
MR. MCINTOSH: Jay McIntosh, Ward 6.  
MR. FLETCHER: Mike Fletcher, Member at Large.  
MR. NGUYEN: Michael Nguyen, from Human Service Commission  
MS. SHAW: Rebecca Shaw, Member at Large.  
MS. PEFFERMAN: Erica Pefferman, Ward 4.  
MR. KASMANN: Ross Kasmann, Ward 3.  
MR. ROSE: I think you're Ward 1.  
MS. ASCANI: Okay.  
III. APPROVAL OF AGENDA  
Motion to approve the agenda: Ritter  
Motion to 2nd: Kasmann  
Motion passes unanimously: 9:0  
IV. APPROVAL OF MINUTES  
Approval of March 13, 2024 Meeting Minutes  
Motion to approve the March 13, 2024 meeting minutes: Pefferman  
Motion to 2nd: Shaw  
Motion passes unanimously: 9:0  
V. OLD BUSINESS  
Discussion of Reallocated Community Development Block Grant (CDBG)  
Recommendations: Recommendations on Approving Amendments to  
Annual Action Plans (AAPs) for FY 2020, FY 2021, FY 2022 and FY 2023  
MR. ROSE: Next we will have some updates on old business.  
MS. DEAVER: So we -- as you know, we put out the RFP for reallocated funds and for  
our FY 25 funds. Please excuse me tonight, have a little sympathy. I am -- my allergies  
are going crazy. So basically, what we have done is we received -- we will review FY 25  
at the end of the month when we have the regular time for that. What we did do on this --  
if you recall in this meeting was, we did the RFP that we would have a preferred deadline  
to try to move the reallocated funds along a little bit quicker. And so we -- we did that,  
and we received four proposals. We received a proposal from the Columbia Housing  
Authority for, basically, demolition on a big portion of their East Park -- East Park Avenue  
units, they will be doing -- demolishing 70 units, and they have requested $820,000 -- or  
40,000 for that -- $840,000, wasn't it?  
MR. AMELUNKE: Yeah.  
MS. DEAVER: $840,000. And we received the proposal from Woodhaven Learning  
Center, and they were requesting that we -- the six properties that they are currently  
working on, that we go ahead and we help them complete some more projects in those.  
They requested $200,000 for that. And then we had two additional proposals. One was  
from Job Point. They were requesting that we help them pay off some loans that they  
have on Job Point buildings in -- for construction loan prior to reimbursement. We -- they  
are requesting us to go back on those and pay loans that they've already processed on.  
We are not able to do that, so we were not able to have that proposal come. And then,  
also, we had one from the Food Bank where they were requesting the purchase of a  
forklift for their warehouse. We are not able to purchase equipment. So when we got  
done with the proposals that had been submitted before the priority date, two -- we ended  
up with the two, the one for CHA, and the one for Woodhaven. So basically, what we've  
done is, you know, we are trying to obligate out the $840,000 that we had talked about  
previously. We are going back four program years for FY 20, 21, 22, and 23 to do that.  
We have, if you see here for 2020, we are -- Woodhaven had some funds that they did not  
use in 2020. They were -- well, actually, I'm sorry, let me respeak that. Woodhaven  
funds were -- one of the things that we also discussed previously was program income,  
and then when we get program income in, we are required to use it first before we can  
use our entitlement funds. What that does is, if we obligated $100,000 to somebody and  
we use $50,000 of it, it has to be paid by program income, then we have $50,000 still  
sitting out here because it's -- that money is still there. That's one of the things that's  
caused a backlog, as well. So in 2020, Woodhaven had $13,082.47 that was covered by  
PI, so we would put that towards this. Job Point -- and you can see through these. Job  
Point had $12,000 with some additional funds. Woodhaven, again, had entitlement  
covered with PI. CMC Women's Business center had entitlement covered with PI.  
Services for Independent Living had entitlement covered by PI, and then the Shalom  
Academy had some also, as well. So for 2021, we have about $70,000 that we're looking  
to reallocate that was for PI -- it was -- the entitlement had been covered by PI. For '22,  
we have Services for Independent Living in Central Missouri. Community Action did not  
spend all of their funding that they had been allocated, so we have drawn that back in.  
Job Point, Services for Independent Living, CMCA, and Columbia Housing Authority all  
had funds that were covered by PI, so have reallocated out of that year about $359,000.  
And then for FY 23, Love Columbia, Voluntary Action Center, and Fun City did not spend  
their funds, and we have brought back $400,000. What this is bringing us to is a total of  
about $843,000, and we had $780,040 was what we would go as our max. That is what  
we are still recommending is that we go to that $840,000 as we had put out. So what  
we're recommending with the staff recommendation is that we allocate the $840,000 that  
Columbia Housing Authority has requested in those funds to be covered with this  
$840,000 that we have. Are there any questions on any of that? I know it gets confusing  
with program income.  
MR. ROSE: Tom Rose here. Can you tell me again what the Housing Authority -- that  
project was going to be demolition for where again?  
MS. DEAVER: Their proposal is --  
MR. ROSE: East Park Avenue.  
MS. DEAVER: -- East Park Avenue, units consisting of demolishing 70 legacy units of  
public housing that have exceeded their life cycle and redevelopment, 79 new high quality  
and affordable units. those 79 units include nine market rate units. CDBG funds  
requested for the remediation, demolition and relocation and site improvement costs.  
Residents include single adults, elderly, and families with children. Sixty-seven percent  
of the residents on Park Avenue are minority populations, and 81 percent make less than  
30 percent of the area median income.  
MR. FLETCHER: Are they able to --  
MR. ROSE: Go ahead and state your name, too.  
MR. FLETCHER: Mike Fletcher. Do they have all the permits and everything to do the  
demo?  
MS. DEAVER: As far as I know, yes. All -- they are in line to start being able to do the  
work. Part of the -- part of the reallocated funds was that the -- any group that applied for  
it, we were very clear that the work had to be able to be started and move quickly.  
MR. MCINTOSH: Jay McIntosh. What happens to the displaced families during  
construction?  
MS. DEAVER: They are all moved at the expense of the Housing Authority. That is part  
of what is required under HUD is that every bit of their -- they're allowed to move, and  
please correct me if I'm wrong, Randy -- Randy Cole is here. They're allowed -- they're  
picked to move, and when they move, if they want to stay where they were placed, I think  
-- I believe that they have the option to stay where they were placed. It's very much  
towards the benefit of the homeowner or the renter in that case. Any other questions?  
MS. PEFFERMAN: Erica Pefferman. I have questions about FY 2023. I remember why  
BAC is unspent, but I can't remember why Love Columbia and Fun City were unspent.  
Do you have a real quick snapshot of that?  
MS. DEAVER: Love -- Love Columbia did not have site control over their property --  
MS. PEFFERMAN: Okay. Yeah.  
MS. DEAVER: -- and so they have -- they asked that we just take the funds back. Fun  
City also did not have site control, and the building that they thought they were going to  
be able to purchase never came to fruition.  
MS. PEFFERMAN: They never -- okay.  
MS. DEAVER: Any other questions here? Yes.  
MS. PEFFERMAN: Can you make this document available?  
MS. DEAVER: Yes. It will be out -- it will be on -- in the notes.  
MS. PEFFERMAN: Okay. Thank you.  
MS. DEAVER: Yes.  
MR. ROSE: Tom Rose here. Are we needing to then make a proposal -- or a proposal  
then that we vote on to approve those?  
MS. DEAVER: What we're going to need tonight is -- and I have one more thing we want  
to talk about out of the CDBG funds.  
MR. ROSE: Okay.  
MS. DEAVER: But we're -- what we will need tonight from you all is that you approve us  
to amend the annual action plans for the four years that will be covered. So '20, '21, '22,  
and '23, we're going to have to amend all of those action plans to make this happen.  
MR. ROSE: And essentially, in doing so, we're approving those projects?  
MS. DEAVER: After this, once you've approved them, we take the -- it will be noticed in  
for 30 days in the paper and it will be out in the public. It will also have to go back to City  
Council for two City Council meetings, one to post the public notice, and then not to have  
the public hearing. So there will be another month that it sits with the -- with the -- and,  
ultimately, yes, the City Council approves it.  
MR. ROSE: Right.  
MS. DEAVER: Approves those two, and then the -- the annual action plans.  
MR. MCINTOSH: Jay McIntosh. Can they approve it the date of the public hearing or do  
they have to wait till the next meeting after that?  
MS. DEAVER: They approve it the date of the public hearing.  
MR. MCINTOSH: All right.  
MS. DAVER: If they approve it, they will approve it that day.  
MR. MCINTOSH: All right. Okay. So two more. All right.  
MS. DEAVER: We have one meeting to say that we're going to have a public hearing --  
MR. MCINTOSH: Right.  
MS. DEAVER: -- and then the next meeting you have a public hearing.  
MR. MCINTOSH: Got it. Thank you.  
MS. DEAVER: So our other proposal is we've been doing a lot of looking at our numbers.  
And one of the things that we feel we could do is we said that there were two proposals.  
We're recommending as staff to do $840,000 toward the -- towards the funds to go to the  
Columbia Housing Authority. They will be able to take them and use them quickly. The  
other proposal we had was for Woodhaven to, as I said, they have been -- they have funds  
right now that they got from the last reallocation of funds. They've used them. They did  
ask for an extension on those funds because they were having trouble getting materials  
and things like that for one of their projects, but we do fully anticipate that they will spend  
their funds by the end of July which they've been extended to. What we are commending  
is, in looking at our numbers, another place where we had kind of a bit of money sitting,  
is in previous years housing rehab funds, which are our housing rehab funds. We're  
recommending that we transfer $200,000 of that money, do the same thing as a  
reallocation of funds to them to Woodhaven for the $200,000 that they have requested,  
that they feel they will be able to spend before the end of the year. So it's the same  
thing, we're just -- we're using our funds for this instead of using funds that have been  
returned or were covered with PI, these are funds that were -- that were City of Columbia  
rehab funds, that we -- once we do this, we will still have over $250,000 to put towards  
rehab. It's not stopping our rehab program; it's just covering that -- that's where we would  
have some extra funds.  
MR. MCINTOSH: So Jay McIntosh again. Do both the $840,000 and the $200,000 have  
to be spent by the end of this calendar year?  
MS. DEAVER: Yeah. That is -- that is the hope.  
MR. ROSE: Tom Rose. So the $90,000 or so is from the 2020 funds that we're giving  
that we would switch over and then the -- $109,000 of those funds we switch over from the  
next year?  
MS. DEAVER: Correct. Yes?  
MR. FLETCHER: Mike Fletcher. So what caused you to get behind for the rehab funds?  
Was that program income that you ended up having to spend in that same scenario?  
MS. DEAVER: There's a -- there could be -- that could also have impacted it. A lot of  
what happened is is this 2020 and 2021, we're coming out Covid.  
MR. FLETCHER: Covid. Right.  
MS. DEAVER: When we weren't able to get into houses the same way to do rehab  
projects. There was material shortages. There were lots of things like that that  
happened around that time. We feel like we're just at this point, and we discussed this in  
previous meetings, where we're really gearing up again, and now the agencies are starting  
to catch back up.  
MR. RITTER: Mitch Ritter. We -- I did notice moving, looking forward in the survey  
results --  
MS. DEAVER: Uh-huh.  
MR. RITTER: -- existing home rehab is a very high focus area.  
MS. DEAVER: Uh-huh.  
MR. RITTER: Are you sure this isn't going to constrain funds now that contractors and  
materials and things are starting to catch up, that we're not going to -- we're going to put  
resources --  
MS. DEAVER: Right.  
MR. RITTER: -- to a couple of rehab projects to Woodhaven --  
MS. DEAVER: Right.  
MR. RITTER: -- but it -- I don't want it taking away from community members' projects  
that might be applied for.  
MS. DEAVER: Jake, do you want to speak a little bit to that?  
MR. RITTER: Just make sure we don't have a backlog on that.  
MR. AMELUNKE: Yeah. I mean, so we're -- we're moving along with the energy  
efficiency sent, and we’ve got one rehab going and we've done four energy efficiencies.  
Since this is older money, it would be good to get caught up a little bit and just kind of  
clean house with stuff. I don't think it's -- we're going to be applying for future money here  
--  
MR. RITTER: True.  
MR. AMELUNKE: -- in the next couple of weeks or whatever or a month. I think we'll be  
fine with that. I haven't -- we just need to figure out if they can actually spend all this  
money. There may be -- we'll just have to look at what their projects are. I don't think it'll  
hurt us at this point because we're going to be in still kind of a building phase teaching  
people how to do income qualification and get rolling with all of our new staff. So  
hopefully within the next six months to a year, we can be fully staffed up and be running  
like we used with the rehabs. I don't think it will negatively affect toward the other ones,  
so --  
MR. RITTER: I just wanted to make sure we're -- Woodhaven isn't going to run into the  
same issues --  
MS. DEAVER: Correct. And we will --  
MR. RITTER: -- that the community members are running into in finding quality  
contractors and materials to complete those jobs. And we’ll trade one issue for another.  
MS. DEAVER: We will confirm that again with them.  
MR. RITTER: Okay.  
MS. DEAVER: So any other questions? So what we're asking for tonight, as I said, is  
the first is to have a -- a motion made to approve the FY --  
MS. THOMPSON: I'm sorry.  
MS. DEAVER: She’s going to word it better.  
MS. THOMPSON: I'm just going to jump in and I'm just going to ask for -- that a  
separate motion be made for each annual action plan.  
MS. THOMPSON: Okay.  
MR. ROSE: Each annual. Okay.  
MS. THOMPSON: Yeah. That you go through starting with 2020 and make a motion to  
approve the amendment to the annual action plan consistent with the reallocations that  
have been discussed this evening and do that for each annual action plan.  
MS. DEAVER: Okay.  
MR. ROSE: Pretty much as they're listed up there?  
MS. DEAVER: Correct. So for 2020, we would like to -- someone to make a motion to  
amend the annual action plan for FY 2020 in what we have discussed here this evening.  
MR. ROSE: Do I have a motion?  
MS. PEFFERMAN: I'll make that motion with the words she just used.  
MR. ROSE: Do I hear a second.  
MR. MCINTOSH: Jay McIntosh. Second.  
MR. ROSE: Okay.  
MS. DEAVER: Okay. We ask for a motion on -- to also do the same with FY 2021  
funds to amend the annual action plan in conjunction with what we have discussed here  
this evening.  
MR. ROSE: Do we want to vote on each one?  
MS. DEAVER: I'm sorry. Do you want to have a vote --  
MR. ROSE: We're going to vote for each one.  
MS. DEAVER: Okay. Let's go ahead and vote.  
MR. ROSE: And we'll do roll call votes.  
MS. DEAVER: Okay.  
MR. ROSE: Yeah.  
MS. DEAVER: Will you please say your name and --  
MS. ASCANI: Rikki Ascani, yes.  
MITCH RITTER: Mitch Ritter, yes.  
MR. ROSE: Tom Rose, yes.  
MR. MCINTOSH: Jay McIntosh, yes.  
MR. FLETCHER: Michael Fletcher, yes.  
MR. NGUYEN: Michael Nguyen, yes.  
MS. SHAW: Rebecca Shaw, yes.  
MS. PEFFERMAN: Erica Pefferman, Yes.  
MR. KASMANN: Ross Kasmann, yes.  
Motion to approve the amendment to the Fiscal Year 2020 annual action plan  
consistent with the reallocations that have been discussed this evening:  
Pefferman  
Motion to 2nd: McIntosh  
Motion passes unanimously: 9:0  
9 - Fletcher, Ritter, Kasmann, Rose, Shaw, Ascani, Pefferman, McIntosh and Nguyen  
Yes:  
-----  
MR. ROSE: Next, we would entertain a motion to amend the 2021 action plan as  
proposed and discussed.  
MR. NGUYEN: Michael Nguyen. I’ll second.  
MR. ROSE: Did we get a -- we didn't have a first? We didn’t get a first.  
MR. NGUYEN: I thought you motioned.  
MR. ROSE: I’m just calling for a motion.  
MR. NGUYEN: I motion to -- I motion for the FY 2021 as previously discussed in this  
meeting.  
MR. ROSE: Can I get a second?  
MS. ASCANI: Rikki Ascani. Second.  
MR. ROSE: Okay. Any discussion? Roll call vote again.  
MS. ASCANI: Rikki Ascani, yes.  
MR. RITTER: Mitch Ritter, yes.  
MR. ROSE: Tom Rose, yes.  
MR. MCINTOSH: Jay McIntosh, yes.  
MR. FLETCHER: Mike Fletcher, yes.  
MR. NGUYEN: Michael Nguyen, yes.  
MS. SHAW: Rebecca Shaw, yes.  
MS. PEFFERMAN: Erica Pefferman, yes.  
MR. KASMANN: Ross Kasmann, yes.  
Motion to approve the amendment to the Fiscal Year 2021 annual action plan  
consistent with the reallocations that have been discussed this evening: Nguyen  
Motion to 2nd: Ascani  
Motion passes unanimously: 9:0  
9 - Fletcher, Ritter, Kasmann, Rose, Shaw, Ascani, Pefferman, McIntosh and Nguyen  
Yes:  
-----  
MR. ROSE: Okay. Then I would entertain a motion for amending the fiscal year 2023 --  
actually 2022. I'm getting ahead of myself. Actually, they get more expensive as you go  
along -- action plan as discussed.  
MR. RITTER: So moved. Mitch Ritter.  
MR. ROSE: Mitch.  
MS. SHAW: Seconded. Rebecca Shaw.  
MR. ROSE: Any discussion?  
MS. PEFFERMAN: I do have one question on this.  
MR. ROSE: Yes.  
MS. PEFFERMAN: Could you clarify why CMCA was not able to spend that $75,000?  
MS. DEAVER: That was for their project, and Jake, you know more about this project  
than I do. It was for the -- over by -- they have changed the type of project they were  
looking to do twice, and then again, a third time, and they ran out of time to be able to do  
it. They were past timeliness. We actually withdrew their funds.  
MS. PEFFERMAN: Got it.  
MR. AMELUNKE: Do you need more info on that?  
MS. PEFFERMAN: No. Thank you.  
MR. ROSE: Okay. Roll call.  
MS. ASCANI, Rikki Ascani, yes.  
MR. RITTER: Mitch Ritter, yes.  
MR. ROSE: Tom Rose, yes.  
MR. MCINTOSH: Jay McIntosh, yes.  
MR. FLETCHER: Mike Fletcher, yes.  
MR. NGUYEN: Michael Nguyen, yes.  
MS. SHAW: Rebecca Shaw, yes.  
MS. PEFFERMAN: Erica Pefferman, yes.  
MR. KASMANN: Ross Kasmann, yes.  
Motion to approve the amendment to the Fiscal Year 2022 annual action plan  
consistent with the reallocations that have been discussed this evening: Ritter  
Motion to 2nd: Shaw  
Motion passes unanimously: 9:0  
9 - Fletcher, Ritter, Kasmann, Rose, Shaw, Ascani, Pefferman, McIntosh and Nguyen  
Yes:  
-----  
MR. ROSE: And then I would entertain a motion for amending the fiscal year 2023 action  
plan.  
MR. MCINTOSH: So moved. Jay McIntosh.  
MR. KASMANN: Kasmann, second.  
MR. ROSE: Any discussion, questions? Okay. Roll call vote.  
MS. ASCANI: Yes, Rikki Ascani.  
MR. RITTER: Mitch Ritter, yes.  
MR. ROSE: Tom Rose, yes.  
MR. MCINTOSH: Jay McIntosh, yes.  
MR. FLETCHER: Mike Fletcher, yes.  
MR. NGUYEN: Michael Nguyen, yes.  
MS. SHW: Rebecca Shaw, yes.  
MS. PEFFERMAN: Erica Pefferman, yes.  
MR. KASMANN: Ross Kasmann, yes.  
MS. DEAVER: And the 2021, 20, and 21, do you want to do those?  
MR. ROSE: But we've already --  
MS. THOMPSON: I think those were included.  
MR. ROSE: Those were included.  
MS. DEAVER: Okay.  
MS. THOMPSON: My perspective was those would be included in the amendment that  
he already made to those action plans.  
MR. ROSE: Correct. That's correct, yes. Because of the action plan changes.  
Motion to approve the amendment to the Fiscal Year 2023 annual action plan  
consistent with the reallocations that have been discussed this evening: McIntosh  
Motion to 2nd: Kasmann  
Motion passes unanimously: 9:0  
9 - Fletcher, Ritter, Kasmann, Rose, Shaw, Ascani, Pefferman, McIntosh and Nguyen  
Yes:  
Discussion of Reallocated HOME Recommendations: Recommendations  
on Approving Amendments to Annual Action Plans (AAPs) for FY 2021  
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MS. DEAVER: Okay. Moving on to our HOME funds, for the HOME funds, we had one  
application for the $45,000 worth of HOME funds which was also from the Columbia  
Housing Authority, and the property, Jake?  
MR. AMELUNKE: Yeah. 207 Lynn Street, and we already have some funds tied up in  
that, but with the increased construction costs and higher interest on housing, this was  
going to increase the downpayment assistance for that home.  
MS. DEAVER: Any questions?  
MS. SHAW: Could you clarify that because this will increase the housing assistance --  
as in this is going for the program for -- (inaudible).  
MR. AMELUNKE: Yeah. So we -- there's -- there's subsidies in the houses, so --  
because the cost of building now is so expensive. To get down to the 80 percent AMI,  
the houses need to be subsidized. There was some subsidy already in it, but it's not  
going to be enough to get people down to that 80 percent AMI, so this request is to --  
MS. SHAW: Cover your extra expenses?  
MR. AMELUNKE: Yes.  
MS. SHAW: Okay.  
MS. DEAVER : Any other questions? We would need the same motion.  
MR. ROSE: So I be entertaining a motion to amend the 2020 -- it's 2021 --  
MS. DEAVER: 2021.  
MR. ROSE: -- action plan for HOME funds as presented.  
MS. PEFFERMAN: So moved, Erica Pefferman.  
MS. SHAW: Seconded, Rebecca Shaw.  
MR. ROSE: Any questions? Do the roll call vote.  
MS. ASCANI: Rikki Ascani, yes.  
MR. RITTER: Mitch Ritter, yes.  
MR. ROSE: Tom Rose, yes.  
MR. MCINTOSH: Jay McIntosh, yes.  
MR. FLETCHER: Mike Fletcher, yes.  
MR. NGUYEN: Michael Nguyen, yes.  
MS. SHAW: Rebecca Shaw, yes.  
MS. PEFFERMAN: Erica Pefferman, yes.  
MR. KASMANN: Ross Kasmann, yes.  
MS. DEAVER: Okay.  
MR. ROSE: It was carried. I wanted just to add -- Tom Rose -- to add that we appreciate  
that we were able to do this early and give them time to get their projects going. This  
was a concern.  
MS. DEAVER: Yes. We are moving as fast -- if lightning had speed, if that makes  
sense.  
Motion to amend the Fiscal Year 2021 action plan for HOME funds as presented:  
Pefferman  
Motion to 2nd: Shaw  
Motion passes unanimously: 9:0  
9 - Fletcher, Ritter, Kasmann, Rose, Shaw, Ascani, Pefferman, McIntosh and Nguyen  
Yes:  
VI. NEW BUSINESS  
Review of Consolidated Plan - Survey Results  
MR. ROSE: Okay. Next -- next would be a discussion about or new business would  
reviewing the results from the consolidated plan survey.  
MS. DEAVER: So as everyone knows, we -- the -- for the consolidated plan, one of the  
things that we're required to do is to do a survey, which we put out -- it ran from October  
through February -- or, I'm sorry -- November through February. The final results that we  
had, there were -- it was the -- the survey was through the City's website, and 476 people  
visited the survey. Of those people, 322 -- it says contributors, 328 responded, and then  
these are some different -- some were anonymous, some were -- registered their names  
to do that.  
MS. PEFFERMAN: How can you have more people contribute than -- or respond than  
actually contributed?  
MS. DEAVER: I am not sure.  
MS. PEFFERMAN: Okay.  
MS. DEAVER: These were the results that we received.  
MS. ASCANI: I wonder if it's people who, like, started filling it out, but didn't actually  
submit it.  
MS. DEAVER: And they just stopped.  
MS. PEFFERMAN: It's a really good point.  
MS. DEAVER: So of the survey responses, and we sent this for you all -- you all have  
one. I'm not going to go through every single question here. I have it broken down a little  
bit differently. But I did want to look at the demographics with you of where we ended up.  
We ended up with a really nice range across the different wards, you can see we had  
response from all different wards. We had -- this is looking at are you Hispanic, yes, no.  
This is looking at what is your race, and you can see -- and I can see if I can get this a  
little bit -- I don't know if I can make it all fit, but you can -- and this is all, again, you've  
been sent this information to review, as well. And then there were several questions of  
people that they could ask what they could fill in what their race was, which is what  
they've done here. What language do you speak at home, the majority was English, and  
then we had a small percentage of other. Does anyone in your household have a  
disability? Of the people who did that, you can see the green section shows 90 --  
MR. MCINTOSH: I was surprised by that high percent.  
MS. DEAVER: Surprised how?  
MR. MCINTOSH: Jay McIntosh. There was a high percentage. It's like almost a third of  
-- over a fourth of the people.  
MS. DEAVER: Uh-huh. Yeah.  
MR. MCINTOSH: Doesn't that seem odd?  
MR. ROSE: Tom Rose. I would say that there are all kinds of disabilities.  
MS. DEAVER: Disabilities.  
MR. FLETCHER: Mike Fletcher. I -- I think some of that is there was -- you got the  
populations in some of the Columbia Housing Authority were targeted, so they were well  
represented and that would include a number of individuals who would fall into that  
category.  
MR. ROSE: Uh-huh.  
MS. DEAVER: So how many people lived in households, the largest portion was, as you  
can see down here, two. Then it looks like the next number was one and then three, so  
those -- we had a lot of different sized households. Is the annual household at or below  
80 percent of the median income, and you can see here that, yes, 127 said yes and 195  
said no. So that was very interesting to me to look at the demographics, and I was the  
most pleased that we had a wide variety across the different wards. So what I've done  
with this data, and this is just our initial discussion of this, with -- with us looking at these  
results. I went and I took them into -- for each area, what was the -- was it -- what was  
their highest area. Was it medium high, medium, or low, which was the way that they  
were set up. So, for instance, the number one thought that people wanted -- felt should  
be looked at and then get assistance is mental health services. Then to housing and for  
homeless individuals and families needing support of services, services for abused and  
neglected youth, vocational training -- street improvements rated in the -- in the top ten,  
health services, services for battered and abused spouses, emergency homeless shelter,  
energy efficiency improvements, and sidewalk improvements, and then downpayment  
assistance for home ownership. So a lot of what we do already is -- was in the top -- in  
the very top answers that were given. Looking at what was in the top -- where the median  
-- the medium area was the top in that area was for services for persons with disabilities,  
employment services, commercial/industrial development or rehabilitation, business  
mentoring, lead based hazard, mold, and asbestos mitigation which is interesting  
because that is a requirement of HUD. We have to do that regardless, code enforcement  
for the exterior of buildings, demolition of dilapidated buildings, community garden's  
facade and infrastructure. And then the low areas that rated -- where the low area was  
the highest were housing for people HIV and Aids, railroad cross improvements, parks  
and trails improvements, residential historic preservation, services for individuals with HIV  
and Aids, tree planting along streets, bus shelters, construction rental, housing,  
residential solar improvements, and then finally legal services. Any comments,  
questions?  
MR. ROSE: Rebecca Shaw?  
MS. SHAW: Rebecca Shaw. I am curious to know. I also agree that our demographics  
it was great to see Wards 2 and 3 well represented across this.  
MS. DEAVER: Uh-huh.  
MS. SHAW: How do our breakup of race, how does that compare to the City, like, the  
latest census from the City? Are we seeing a pretty good representation of our City as a  
whole kind of in that?  
MS. DEAVER: I have not explored that. I can look into that.  
MS. SHAW: I'm just curious.  
MS. DEAVER: Yeah.  
MS. SHAW: I want to say the last time it was -- I wanted to say 12 to 14 percent --  
MS. DEAVER: Uh-huh. Uh-huh.  
MS. SHAW: -- maybe black and then other -- I mean, it seems like it's close.  
MS. DEAVER: Okay. I can definitely look into that.  
MS. SHAW: I think that -- thank you for the breakdown of this. This is really helpful to  
kind of see, and I think you're right, we've funded a lot of projects that fall in these  
categories.  
MS. DEAVER: Uh-huh. And remember part of what we will use the survey for is to go in  
when we're breaking down by the four categories that we break down into what  
percentages we recommend you use for those, or that you're recommending we use for  
those. So we're not stuck on them except for the 15 percent for the vocational training,  
but -- but -- and the mentoring falls under it, as well. But other than that, those can  
switch, but that helps us kind of look. In my very brief not really specific -- a lot of time  
put into it, but we're very close to where we were the last time that we did the  
consolidated plan and where those were going to be.  
MR. FLETCHER: Mike Fletcher. There were some interesting findings because here we  
see sidewalk improvements was rated high, and yet the bus -- improving bus stops was  
low.  
MS. DEAVER: Uh-huh.  
MR. FLETCHER: And it would seem that -- that those would typically work together.  
Someone is walking, they may not have a vehicle, and would need bus transportation --  
MS. DEAVER: Uh-huh.  
MR. FLETCHER: you know, the both of those would -- would rate high versus one high  
and one not.  
MR. MCINTOSH: Jay McIntosh. There wasn't any waiting in this. Right? Anybody  
could -- could just -- every -- they could have said everything was on it; am I right?  
MS. DEAVER: Correct.  
MR. MCINTOSH: Okay.  
MR. ROSE: All right.  
MS. DEAVER: Any other questions, comments? Okay.  
MR. ROSE: I think that is all that we had for this evening then; is that right?  
MS. DEAVER: We just have general comments.  
MR. ROSE: I mean for what you have here?  
MS. DEAVER: I believe so, for new business; correct.  
VII. GENERAL COMMENTS BY PUBLIC, MEMBERS AND STAFF  
MR. ROSE: So do we have any general comments from the public today? We do.  
MR. COLE: Randy Cole, Columbia Housing Authority, 201 Switzler. I just wanted to  
thank the Commissioner for the recommendation for funding this evening. I do have one  
pager on both of our applications that was submitted. If you're interested, you can grab  
one. I didn't want to take time passing it around, but they're here for you tonight. Just a  
couple of brief highlights. The Park Avenue project, I guess, is one of the most important  
projects of the Columbia Housing Authority, at least in our generation. I'm really excited  
about the project. And your recommendations tonight were really important to the  
project. It was first conceptualized back in December of 2022, so we've had some  
increase in costs that happened since then, particularly in interest rates for our  
construction financing. Also as we've looked at demolishing the units, we've identified  
some additional costs associated with asbestos remediation, so on those two items  
alone, our asbestos and demolition remediation cost increases were around $413,000  
since initial conception. And then our development hard costs were about $644,000, so  
this will be really good for the project. It means we'll have less debt service over the long  
term, which means we'll have more funds available for the programming for the residents  
for maintaining properties, making sure they're well cared for. We think this project will  
serve over 1,100 individuals over the next 25 years. You know, ten percent of CHA  
residents every year move on and up into market rate housing, so just that housing  
stability loan is really important for our community. We think this project will produce  
about 43 jobs while it's happening. It will increase our real estate tax revenue, because  
we'll turn that into an income-producing property of $61,000 per year. It'll increase both  
oversight of the Housing Authority because we are accountable to hire IRS, MHTC and  
HUD, as well as the City. And we're going to mix in ten percent of our units for market  
rehab, but the projects we'll let progress along. We received our environmental clearance  
from HUD and authority to proceed last week. We have a couple of deadlines with  
MHTC. Our firm's submission is due May 31st, along with HUD. So after we submit  
there, closing will happen within four months afterwards and we'll proceed into the project.  
Our residents are really excited. They continue being engaged with the community  
partners that are helping with this, so thank you the Commission for helping with this. It's  
real important. The other project, the 207 Lynn home, when we first conceptualized that  
project, interest rates were at five percent, and now they're at about seven and a half  
percent, so I'm thinking through an affordable mortgage. Back at that time, we thought  
affordable mortgage at the five percent was around $137,000, and that would get us to a  
principal interest, taxes and insurance to about $863. If we try to stay at that same  
range at a seven and a half percent, we need to get down to $100,000 to make that work  
with the interest rates. We've also -- we'll also see a little bit of appreciation from our  
as-is appraisal at that time, so this $45-- truly does fill that gap that's been created just  
over the passage of time with increasing interest rates and appreciation in the market.  
So another really important investment that will make sure we can get a household in that  
unit. We had the mayor out at our board meeting tonight to recognize the family  
self-sufficiency program and the graduate that we think is going to go into that house,  
that we're really excited about, so it's a really important project to get our Housing  
Authority residents into home ownership and out of renting, a big part of our strategy  
moving forward. So thank you again for that, as well.  
MR. ROSE: Thank you, Randy. Any other comments. Any comments from the  
Commission?  
MS. SHAW: I'll just let everybody know that the next project Homeless Connect is going  
to be on July 7th at First Baptist Church from 11:00 to 2:00. They're looking for  
volunteers, they're looking for help purchasing items to stuff backpacks, but really your --  
your time on that day is the most valuable thing.  
MS. PEFFERMAN: Thank you.  
MS. SHAW: Uh-huh.  
MR. ROSE: Anything from staff?  
MS. DEAVER: We -- we did submit the CAPER, the last -- the CAPER did go in four  
days early, so we were -- we're pleased to have one project off of our -- one major report  
off of our desks, and we are now waiting on the -- HUD to release the final numbers for  
the 2025 funds so that -- or, I'm sorry -- 2024 funds, and then we will, once they do  
release those funds, we have 60 days, 30 of those that needs to be noticed, so we have  
30 days to write the annual action plan for 2024, which we are already working on. We're  
just waiting on our final numbers, so that will be our next big project coming. And then  
we'll all start talking about consolidated.  
MR. ROSE: Very good. All right. Welcome to our -- your new staff member.  
MS. DEAVER: Yes. We’re excited.  
MR. ROSE: Very good.  
VIII. NEXT MEETING DATE  
May 15, 2024  
IX. ADJOURNMENT  
The meeting adjourned at 7:38 p.m.  
Motion to adjourn: Pefferman  
Motion to 2nd: Kasmann  
Motion passes unanimously: 9:0