and a land surveyor. I own a company called A Civil Group. I'm here on my own tonight.
I want to say I appreciate the challenges you guys face for this. And I was in the work
session earlier, and some of the things that you're talking about are very, you know,
segue right into what happened tonight. So I -- you know, the challenge here with the
small lot integration is going to be what you are doing tonight, and it's, you know, --
trying to convince neighbors that change is okay, and I appreciate that. One of the
things, the other challenges though that, you know, is you talk -- you talk about a replat
of an existing lot in your work session. And if you have an existing lot and you replat it,
you break the stormwater redevelopment exemption. Okay? So -- and this is a question
more for Jesse, because Cavanaugh, when he wrote that ordinance, he used the word
"exemption" and he used the word "exception", and legally, I'm ignorant of the difference,
but if you read the Chapter 12A, if you're one acre or smaller and you have any amount of
impervious area, you are -- I think it's -- it's an exception to the ordinance, so you did --
the way it was explained to me, it was it does not apply, period. And then you go on and
there's other things in the Chapter 12A for that application if you're one acre or greater,
then you can have 12 percent of impervious area, you are exempt. And so my question
or point for you all tonight is is that you guys are doing a great job. On Chapter 29, Pat
is the expert in Chapter 29, but there's other chapters, and -- and all this stuff is
interconnected and it's like a spider's web. And every time we touch something, it spires
through, and you guys know that real well. And in Chapter 29, what I'm trying to point out
that there's other things. So if you guys do this and you're successful and -- but I can't --
I can't advise someone to replat this because now we have to do stormwater -- full
stormwater detention water quality, and that's going to -- that just killed your affordability,
just boom, gone. And Cody is a great resource for you guys on this. He's done designs
for things like this, so he can explain it better than I can on that. The other thing that part
of this affordability issue, if we're looking at things is, you know, we're taking the large
cost of development and we're trying to divide it by a bigger number, by having smaller
lots, so we're getting, you know, less costs, but we're not looking at what's causing those
costs, and part of that is street standards. And if you have a small lot subdivision, and
you're require to put barrier curbs in, and you're taking out 80 to 90 percent of the curves
for every driveway because they're small lots. Right? There's a driveway everywhere.
You've just built something that you're just cutting out and throwing away. And so why
not go back to allowing curb mount -- you know, mountable curbs for streets -- public
streets. So it's just a real small example of how the street standards, whether we talk
about inlets and having to -- you know, and then the whole storm water regulations adds
a tremendous amount of cost to all this, and -- and it's really complicated, and when you
start trying to explain it to people, their eyes roll back in their head and they just want to
be somewhere else. But it's -- it's something that I think has to be thought of with all
