case that you just recommended denial on. But I do want to give you a perspective that I
-- I have after 35 years of doing this. When we were using planned developments, I had a
lot of tools when I met with neighbors, and I could address use -- you know, eliminate
uses that were concerns. I could -- I had a lot of tools to address the same concerns
that you guys are voicing tonight, and, you know, when we came to the -- adopted the
UDC. I was assured that, you know, we're getting rid of the planned districts and the use
of that because of the cumbersome way they have to be managed in order -- because we
were having all the use specific standards, the neighborhood protections, and all the other
parts of the UDC. So it's -- it's really hard, you know, and I'm always asked, well, what's
the intended use. And I always kind of -- I almost kind of laugh to myself about that
because name a commercial building that is what it was when it was built? I mean,
there's a lot of reuse and redundance, so, I mean, I could come in tonight and said this is
going to be a veterinary clinic. And, you know, and everyone goes, oh, well, that's okay,
you know, that's not a problem. But the problem is, and this is exactly what Sharon
said, is these uses are what's allowed. And you guys have to build these use-specific
standards to give you all selves the confidence that when someone comes in and asks
for a zoning category, that there are other limitations than these are the allowed uses,
but, oh, yeah, we have all these use specific standards that say if you do this, then you
have to do this and you have to do this. So it's -- you know, and I kind of miss the
planned districts a little bit because I'm the one talking to neighborhood associations, and
I'm trying to explain to them. And I have one coming before you next meeting for
Copperstone, and the neighbors just flat out insisted that it stay planned district. They
would not even entertain the idea that going to open zoning, because the whole concept
of use specific standards and all that is just really hard to educate to people. And I've
met with them four times, so, I mean, it's not like it's just one meeting with them. But
point being is is, you know, we will be coming back with straight zoning requests that
don't have a specific use to them. And if everyone goes -- goes to the worst-case
scenario of what could -- the awful things that could happen there, then we'll never be able
to utilize the UDC in the way that it was envisioned. And so, you know, when I have a
case like that, you know, and I come forward with a PD, then I'm -- I'm criticized,
perhaps, of why are you using a PD because it's not appropriate. So I just wanted to
point out that my perspective on that. You don't necessarily have to agree with it, but it's
-- it is something to think about. You guys have adopted this Code, and I think you just
have to have some faith in it. And if you see something that's broken in it, you need to fix
it by adding more use specific standards and more detail to the use specific standards
and that to allow it to function properly. That's all I have.
MS. GEUEA JONES: Thank you, Mr. Gebhardt.
MS. PLACIER: Thank you.