City of Columbia, Missouri  
Meeting Minutes  
Water and Light Advisory Board  
701 E Broadway  
Conference Room  
1A/1B  
Wednesday, January 10, 2024  
8:00 AM  
Regular  
I. CALL TO ORDER  
Mr. Coffin called the meeting to order at 8:01 A.M.  
Staff: Sarah Talbert, Assistant Director Utilities- Rates and Fiscal Planning; David Sorrell,  
Utilities Director; Erin Keys, Acting Assistant Director- Electric; Todd McVicker, Acting  
Utility Services Manager; Matt Nestor, Public Information Specialist; David Storvick,  
Engineering Manager; Chelsea Miller, Treasurer; Shedonna Shivers, Assistant Treasurer;  
Madison Jones-Smith, Administritative Technician I  
Council Members: Betsy Peters  
Public: Jim Windsor, Mike Murphy, Dick Parker  
4 - Thomas Jensen, David Switzer, Gregg Coffin and Amanda Jacobs  
1 - Philip Fracica  
Present:  
Absent:  
II. INTRODUCTIONS  
A round robin was done for introductions.  
III. APPROVAL OF AGENDA  
Mr. Thomas Jensen made a motion to approve the agenda as submitted with a  
second by Ms. Amanda Jacobs. The motion passed unanimously.  
IV. APPROVAL OF MINUTES  
The December 12, 2023 EV Training minutes were approved with changes on a  
motion by Ms. Amanda Jacobs and a second by Mr. Tom Jensen.  
The December 13, 2023 meeting minutes were approved as submitted with a  
motion by Mr. Tom Jensen and a second by Ms. Amanda Jacobs.  
V. PAYIT (AUTOPAY) UPDATE  
Ms. Miller from the finance department gave an update about the City’s new online  
payment system, Payit. She stated that in some phases, Payit is live. In the next few  
months, starting about February first, they will begin to roll out the autopay phase of the  
launching process. She discussed the plan to send out some emails and mail to notify  
customers of the switch and letting them know they will have to switch from the in-house  
system of autopay and bank draft to Payit. Ms. Miller then stated they are working  
towards creating notifications for autopay that would let the customer know when they  
have a bill posting, notify them when it's almost time for the auto payment, and when the  
payment is pulled out of the account. She also stated that they are working towards  
getting autopay through a debit or credit card along with the bank drafting option.  
VI. FINANCIAL REPORTS (as available)  
a) Monthly Financial Report  
Ms. Talbert stated that the month-to-date electric operating revenues and expenses were  
up in November 2023 as compared to November 2022. She also stated that the  
year-to-date values for electric were also up in November 2023 by about 1.4 million as  
compared to November 2022. Ms. Talbert discussed that the month-to-date water  
operating revenues and expenses were up in November 2023 than in November 2022. She  
also stated that the year-to-date numbers were also higher than in November 2022. Ms.  
Talbert discussed the month-to-date and year-to-date actuals for water and electric and  
stated that the water operating expenses and revenues were lower compared to the  
proposed budget, the same going for electric. She stated that the city was okay on their  
budget. Ms. Talbert also provided the 13-month rolling comparisons for both electric and  
water. She stated that for both water and electric the expenses for November 2023 were  
higher than in 2022. She also stated that the 13-month rolling comparisons for the water  
and electric operating revenues were also up in November of 2023 than in November  
2022. Ms. Talbert also stated that the monthly and annual water and electric usage billed  
in Fiscal Year 23 was higher compared to Fiscal Year 22.  
VII. NEW BUSINESS  
a) Line Extension Policy Discussion  
Mr. Coffin discussed the Line Extension Policy and noted that the board could look it over  
and review and have a discussion at a later meeting. He stated that the idea would need  
policies to be put in place and an ordinance would need to be drafted. Mr. Windsor noted  
that an ordinance was originally drafted, but that engineering thought it was too much and  
there needed to be some sort of a flat fee instead of a rate.  
VIII. DIRECTOR'S REPORTS  
a) Annual Engineering Fiscal Reports  
Ms. Talbert provided the engineering fiscal reports for both water and electric. She asked  
if there were any questions over it. Mr. Coffin expressed that he would like to see a ratio  
of underground to overhead KV distribution. Mr. Coffin asked in regards to the water report  
why the total amount of water supplied to Columbia’s distribution system is lower  
compared to the amount of water pumped from eighteen different gravel-packed wells near  
the McBaine Water Treatment plant. Mr. Sorrell stated that it is due to metering and  
losses.  
b) Training/Tours  
Ms. Talbert asked the board for input on what types of training the board would like to  
participate in as well as what facilities they would want to tour. It was discussed that  
there was interest in a tour of the McBaine Water Treatment Plant. Ms. Talbert stated  
that originally there were sometimes meetings of this nature off site at a particular facility,  
but that legal did not want the board to have meetings off site anymore. Mr. Coffin  
expressed that the tour should happen when it is warmer in April and May and that he  
wanted to see a before and after of the upgrades that are scheduled to take place. Mr.  
Coffin also expressed an interest in a potential tour of Truman Solar. He also discussed  
wanting to have Automated Metering Infrastructure (AMI) training in the future. Mr. Jensen  
expressed that in the past they had taken accounting training and wondered if that could  
be a potential training as well.  
c) Council Item Update  
Ms. Talbert discussed council item updates for the last few meetings. She stated that  
Council Bill 292-23 authorizing a joint funding agreement with the City of Columbia and  
the U.S. Geological Survey for water resource investigations was approved at the  
December 4th meeting. She stated at the council meeting on December 18th, Jim  
Windsor had a scheduled public comment asking what goals were met by the July 1,  
2023 electric rate increase. She also stated that there was a discussion about amending  
the FY 2024 annual budget in which Water and Light had the Water CIP and Electric CIP  
to amend. Ms. Talbert stated there was no meeting on January 2nd. She also stated that  
there were two outstanding items for the council to consider, the annual WLAB report and  
FY 2024 goals and Authorizing the city manager to enter into an agreement for Deed of  
Water Utility Easement and Related agreements.  
IX. CHAIRMAN'S REPORTS  
a) Follow-Up On Rate Affordability Metrics Meeting  
Ms. Talbert stated that the board should reach out to Mr. Manny Teodoro to see when a  
good time for him would be to come and give his presentation to the board. She asked  
Mr. Switzer if she needed to be the one to reach out and he said yes. The board decided  
that they should try for the February 14th meeting as the meeting for Mr. Teodoro to give  
the presentation, otherwise they would push it to March or April.  
b) Review Renewable Ordinance  
Mr. Coffin discussed the renewable energy ordinance. He stated that the council was  
giving the advisory board a chance to amend the ordinance. Mr. Coffin then asked the  
board to name their pros and cons of the ordinance. Ms. Jacobs, Mr. Switzer, and Mr.  
Jensen all expressed that the wording and the dates were all too confusing and or not  
flexible enough. Ms. Jacobs stated that it needed to be more flexible in order to account  
for the set backs that are out of their control. Mr. Jensen stated that the ordinance  
opened up a discussion every month and that the word renewable was not a good way to  
describe what the city is going towards because landfill gasses were seen as renewable.  
He stated there needed to be some clarifying words in order to make the ordinance  
feasible and flexible. Mr. Switzer stated that goals can be a good thing, but that goals  
that are out of the control of the people that have to reach them are hard. He stated that  
there needed to be more feasible and attainable goals within the ordinance itself. Mr.  
Coffin stated he would like to hear the input of staff at the next meeting about this  
ordinance in order to see the impact. He stated that the next steps were to read over the  
ordinance and start to make changes as needed and draft up a new one.  
c) Rolling Calendar  
Ms. Talbert discussed the rolling calendar and added a few things to the February  
meeting schedule. She stated that they would revisit the renewable ordinance, have the  
rate affordability metrics presentation, and finalize a date for the tour of the McBaine  
treatment plant.  
X. PUBLIC EMAIL COMMENTS  
None.  
XI. GENERAL COMMENTS BY PUBLIC, MEMBERS AND STAFF  
Mr. Windsor stated that 120 years ago Columbia purchased the water and light utility and  
that he felt these anniversaries needed to be recognized. He stated that Darrell Dunlap  
and Howard Electric could speak on their experiences with 35 megawatt (MW) and state  
the positives and pitfalls. Mr. Windsor then stated that the cap for renewable energy was  
blown past by 60 percent in 2022 and that it would be fiscally irresponsible to do anything  
with renewables or the fossil fuel contracts until they know about what the contract would  
cost them in the long run.  
Mr. Parker stated that there were seven days worldwide where the temperature did not  
increase by 1.5 percent. He also stated that he believed that MISO and renewable energy  
could replace fossil fuels. Mr. Parker also commended the board for taking action.  
XII. NEXT MEETING DATE  
February 14, 2024  
XIII. ADJOURNMENT  
The meeting adjourned at 10:15 A.M. on a motion by Mr. David Switzer with a  
second by Mr. Thomas Jensen.  
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