City of Columbia, Missouri

Meeting Minutes

City Council

Council Chamber

Columbia City Hall

701 E. Broadway

Monday, October 4, 2021

7:00 PM

Regular

I. INTRODUCTORY ITEMS

The City Council of the City of Columbia, Missouri met for a regular

meeting at approximately 7:13 p.m. on Monday, October 4, 2021, in the

Council Chamber of the City of Columbia, Missouri.

The Pledge of

Allegiance was recited, and the roll was taken with the following results:

Council Member PAT FOWLER, Council Member ANDREA WANER,

Mayor Pro Tem and Council Member KARL SKALA, Council Member IAN

THOMAS, Council Member MATT PITZER, and Council Member BETSY

PETERS (arrived at approximately 7:16 p.m.) were present. Mayor BRIAN

TREECE was absent. City Manager John Glascock, City Counselor Nancy

Thompson, City Clerk Sheela Amin, and various Department Heads and

Staff Members were also present.

The minutes of the regular meeting of August 2, 2021 were approved

unanimously by voice vote on a motion by Council Member Pitzer and a

second by Council Member Waner.

The minutes of the special meeting of August 9, 2021 were approved

unanimously by voice vote on a motion by Council Member Fowler and a

second by Council Member Pitzer.

Council Member Peters entered the meeting.

The minutes of the special meeting of September 1, 2021 were approved

unanimously by voice vote on a motion by Council Member Waner and a

second by Council Member Pitzer.

Mayor Pro Tem Skala explained the minutes were not yet complete for the

July 19, 2021, August 16, September 7, and September 20 regular

meetings.

Council Member Fowler asked that B296-21, B297-21, B299-21, B300-21

and B301-21 be moved from the consent agenda to old business.

The agenda, including the consent agenda with B296-21, B297-21,

B299-21, B300-21 and B301-21 being moved to old business, was

approved unanimously by voice vote on a motion by Council Member

Thomas and a second by Council Member Waner.

II. SPECIAL ITEMS

SI17-21

Resolution of Appreciation - David Nichols, Public Works Director.

Mayor Pro Tem Skala read and presented the resolution of appreciation to

Public Works Director David Nichols in honor of his retirement.

NICHOLS:

Thanks for somebody taking chance on me 16 years ago, so it's been

staff -- can't thank them enough. They're the ones that really get the credit.

Just want to say thanks to everyone for the support throughout the years.

great run. My

just

get to stand up here and take the appreciation for all that, and my friends, fellow

directors, and council, thank you all for all the support through the years. And it's

been a great career for the city. I appreciate it very much.

SI18-21

COVID-19 Update.

Public Health and Human Services Director Stephanie Browning an update

with regard to COVID-19.

BROWNING:

Good evening. Just

quick update for you tonight -- as usual, we'll go

cases,

through the things we tend to look at every time we look at an update

testing, positivity rates, sewer shed, hospitalizations, and vaccines. So this is the

7-day rolling average of cases per day. You can see that that number is on the

decline. That's great news. This is our 14-day average --we look at both because we

try to level them out to minimize some of the spikes but you can see that that

number is also going down. This is the 14-day average number of tests per day. You

can also see that it picked up for

picked up in July, and pretty much during the month of September the numbers

have been down. do want to report that MU Healthcare has made change in their

testing policies so -- at the place Stadium and Broadway had required an

appointment for free testing but you did not have to have physician's order, and

they have now changed that to walk-in testing Monday through Friday from 8:00

until 4:45. You still don’t need doctor’s order. If you have insurance, take your

insurance but nobody will be refused test if they need it. This is the positivity rate

a while there but now it’s again on the decline. It

so -- you know, we talked about this for like eighteen months. The way that we do

this is we actually take and look at the number of people and we take out if they

have been tested multiple times, and so our number tends to be higher than what

CDC and the State reports. Our positivity rate for the most recent period is going

down but it's still 16.6 percent. If you look at the way the CDC does their positivity

rate, we're at 6.4% for the previous seven days so that is definitely an

improvement. So I've been showing you for the last couple months the sewer shed

surveillance done by MU, and they are testing sewer shed throughout the State of

Missouri, and as you can see, our numbers are going down there as well. We've had

consistent declines since probably the beginning -- into late July so very good

news. Hospitalizations and healthcare systems, again those numbers are also

improving after some pretty big spike in August. Also going down is the number of

people in ICUs and people on ventilators. From our numbers today for all of our

hospitals, we had 51 people in their hospitals with COVID. That's

since Friday. We’ve had 16 in the ICU today and we have 12 on

decrease of 11

ventilator, and

those are from all of our catchment counties so that was not just Boone County. So

turning toward vaccinations, so in August, mid-August, third dose vaccines were

approved for people who were immuno-compromised, and that is for Moderna and

Pfizer. They had to have 28 days between completing their full series to getting that

third dose so those vaccines have been going on here in Boone County and

throughout the State with our partners so we're making good progress in that area.

We have pivoted since mid-September and we are doing school flu vaccinations.

We have

a program where we make vaccines available to all our public and private

schools in Boone County and so that's where our focus has been the last couple

weeks, but we are -- one of the things we've done as far as third dose is -- all the

people that we had done home visits on, that niche early on, those that needed

third dose, we've been completing those to make sure that they're vaccinated.

Covid-19 booster -- people get confused about third dose and booster -- so booster

shots just became available recently, and that is for people who have had --

completed the Pfizer series. They have to have six months between their last Pfizer

shot and their booster, and they have to be -- they have to have

and I've listed those. That's people over age 65, people over 18 with an underlying

medical condition. If you go on the CDC website, there's pretty expansive list of

a qualifying factor,

what qualifies, but what we would say, and what most of the providers in town

would say, is if you are not sure if you qualify, call your provider and ask. If your

provider says you qualify, you will get vaccinated. The third group is 18 or older that

have -- that work in

high risk settings. That includes our first responders,

healthcare workers, firefighters, police, people that work in congregate care,

people that work in the educational environment, daycare, food and agricultural

workers, manufacturing, corrections, postal service, public transit, and grocery

store workers. And then lastly, anyone that’s 18 or over that lives in

setting, whether that’s long-term care or congregate care, correctional facilities,

homeless shelters -- they are all eligible for booster. So in Boone County, as of

this morning, 56.4 percent have initiated vaccination, 51 percent are fully

vaccinated. The 7-day average dose administered was 392. As mentioned, we have

high risk

shifted to school flu so what we're doing as far as COVID vaccine is -- on the

weekends, we're doing booster clinics and first dose clinics for everyone. We had

our first weekend this weekend.

until the school flu program wraps up and then we'll turn back to COVID. This is one

that -- slide that pulled up just from the State dashboard last time we were here.

I think we did about 59. So we'll keep doing that

You can see the 12 to 17 year old population. 48.2 percent are fully vaccinated, 54.3

percent have initiated vaccination. You can see our 18 year old, 18-plus numbers,

and you can see at the bottom our 65 and up. One thing

slide comes directly from the State's dashboard. CDC also has

system and they're numbers differ little bit from ours, and probably most sig -- so

would point out -- so this

COVID data tracker

CDC says that 62.6 percent of all vaccine eligible population is fully vaccinated in

Boone County, and for those that are over 65, they estimate 94.7 have initiated the

first dose and 87.9 are fully vaccinated. So the only thing

remember early on, the federal pharmacy program came in and they vaccinated in

nursing homes and -- so think some of those probably did not get captured on the

Missouri dashboard, which is what’s making difference. Finally, these are the total

doses administered over time. There's new addition. It is really hard to see on the

bottom, it's that yellow. That's the third doses. On Friday, when was looking at our

numbers -- for the previous seven days, we were averaging 222 vaccinations per

day in Boone County, and today it was 392, so nice jump, probably mostly due to

I can think on that is -- you

people getting boosters. But you can see the numbers definitely are trending

down, and the boosters are going to be the thing that will keep everyone busy.

Happy to answer any questions.

SKALA: Thank you. Any questions for Director Browning? Ms. Fowler

FOWLER: Thank you. Yes, Director Browning, where are we, to the best of your

knowledge, with the number of city employees that have been fully vaccinated?

PETERS: Fifty percent. That would be my guess, at best, and it differs by

department. Some departments have high percentages vaccinated and others are

lower. We are probably less than 50 percent.

FOWLER: So

I asked a question today of the city manager about whether or not the

federal requirements applied to us as an organization that takes federal money.

What's your understanding of whether the federal requirements apply to our city

employees?

BROWNING: in my time working here since 1999,

state and so the OSHA rules don't apply to us the same way that other states that

are consider an OSHA state. That's not like my area of expertise, but know that as

City we've always attempted to follow the rules and requirements of OSHA so what

we've done is we have had preliminary meeting to talk about it because we don't

know what's coming and we don't know what the will will be. So like we've just all

sort of began -- okay what if there is desire for mandatory vaccinations, how

I know that we are not an OSHA

would we do that. We are starting to bring the people together but there --

there will be a lot of lawsuits and things that we'll have to go through, so yeah.

I sense

FOWLER: So

I know some of this is outside of your scope, but is one of the things

that you're talking about whether or not we would adjust the insurance rates of the

employees that choose not to vaccinate?

BROWNING: Yeah, that's never been a conversation I've been part of.

FOWLER: I'll ask the city manager later tonight. Thank you.

SKALA: Any other questions for director Browning? Yes, Mr. Pitzer.

PITZER: Is there guidance on having like the flu vaccine and

together or they should be separated?

a COVID vaccine close

BROWING: You can have them the same day.

PITZER: Same day.

BROWNING: Yeah, now

I know that there are some places in town that are requiring

week between, but that is not the best recommended practice. The best practice

is if you have one and somebody wants the other, do them both.

PITZER: Are you offering the COVID vaccine alongside the flu vaccine in the schools

for the 12 and 17 year olds?

BROWNING: No, the schools are

a little different beast. We've been out there and

done the middle school and high school grades already with COVID vaccine, and so

now we're circling back with the flu, but they're just completely different and it is,

it is, really hard to do several hundred kids flu vaccinations and

are still continuing to take their kids to a provider.

PITZER: Okay, thanks.

a COVID so parents

BROWNING: But when the 5 to 11 year olds become available, I'm sure we'll be

circling back to the schools and doing that there.

SKALA:

chatter, there's been

season, the indoor season, and so on, and there may be -- although our record is

pretty good in Boone County -- we're doing pretty well know you’re no fortune

have

couple questions. One is -- in the news lately and in social media

good deal of suggestion that we're getting into the flu

teller, but do you have any anticipation of the potential for spikes we may see

because of that?

BROWNING: Well, it's hard to predict. If you look at 18 months, you see ups and

downs, right, and you see some spikes. We certainly saw

talking with Dr. Wood at MU Healthcare the other day, and we were talking about

the ups and downs, and think both of us were thinking, hopefully we're not going

to see that big spike, but we will probably continue to see ups and downs because

a spike last fall and I was

we don't have enough people vaccinated. And then add to it, the fact that we’ve

got flu season coming up, and last year our flu season was almost nonexistent

really, and it’s because we were wearing masks. And this summer we saw

something very unusual -- we saw an increase in RSV in kids and adults, and we

hardly ever see that in the summer, and that's still continuing around the State. So

we’ve got

whole notion of, if you don't feel well, stay home, and go and get tested.

SKALA: One other question, little bit off topic, but it has to do with flu shots, and

that it -- it's my understanding that over 65 has higher dose of flu shot than the

lot of upper respiratory things in the community, which makes the

youth do. Since you are here and you are from the Health Department, could you

explain that a little bit?

BROWNING: Yeah, there has been for the last couple of years

recommended for people that are 65 and up, and that is available widely in the

community, and so would encourage anyone that was thinking about getting flu

stronger dose

shot that meets that requirements to get that vaccine.

SKALA: Thank you. Any other questions? Thank you very much.

III. APPOINTMENTS TO BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS

None.

IV. SCHEDULED PUBLIC COMMENT

SPC52-21

Joseph Jefferies and Olivia Perner - Introduce the nonprofit Requiem

Alliance.

Mayor Pro Tem Skala explained Joseph Jefferies and Olivia Perner

rescheduled for October 18.

SPC53-21

Jan Weaver - Appoint an ad hoc committee to develop a conservation

overlay to be added to the Unified Development Code to be used to

protect the natural features of sensitive areas like those around Rock

Bridge Memorial State Park if and when they are annexed into the City.

Jan Weaver spoke.

WEAVER: Thanks for providing this public comment period.

name is Jan Weaver. live at 412 ½ West Walnut and I'm here speaking on behalf of

the Gans Creek Allies. If you are member of the Allies, can you raise your hand or

I have a powerpoint. My

stand up? (Approximately 12-15 people stood.) So these are people that have been

working for the past summer on this, the development of this plan and we're asking

for

Rock Bridge Memorial State Park conservation overlay because Rock Bridge

Memorial State Park is an important natural, recreational, aesthetic, educational,

and economic asset to the City of Columbia and the surrounding area and it

deserves special protection, and because the greatest threat to the park is

development through removal of trees, soil disturbance, and over the long term,

the amount of impervious surface, cover, and stream watersheds in areas just

outside the park. I’ll pause

a minute. The impacts of impervious surfaces on stream

have been known since 1975, and in just the last five years, over 100 scientific

papers have documented those impacts and the so far, unsuccessful attempts to

mitigate them, and

the people of Columbia, Boone County, and the State of Missouri support

protection of Rock Bridge Memorial State Park and its environment as

I included a number of references in your packet -- and because

demonstrated by over 2,000 signatures to petition asking for

southeast area plan

to protect the area along with recommendations to revise ordinances and zoning to

protect sensitive natural areas in the 2013 Columbia Imagined document, the 2010

East Area Plan, and the 2007 Bonne Femme watershed project. This has been on the

City's agenda for

a long time. Therefore, we request that the Columbia City Council

appoint an ad hoc committee to develop an conservation overlay district to be

added to the Unified Development Code (UDC) that will protect the natural assets

and experiences of nature in the park by limiting the extent and kinds of

development that can take place on the land near the park, there request has five

parts. Stricter standards, the area covered, automatic application upon annexation,

protection inherent in the development design, and an 18 month moratorium on

annexation and rezoning. The conservation overlay should, at

minimum, propose

stricter standards than those currently in place for stream buffers, floodplains,

karst, the tree canopy, and erodeable soils. Plus there should be specific limitations

on impervious cover. The overlay should also set guidelines and standards for

alternative models of development that provide for homes while significantly

limiting impervious surface. You can see in the watershed map up there -- the

limestone bedrock -- that’s the pink area going through the center of the watershed

-- can produce karst features like caves, sinkholes, and springs. The conservation

overlay should, at

a minimum, include the area between Route K on the west, Gans

Road on the north, Highway 63 on the east, and the boundary of Rock Bridge

Memorial State Park on the south. The conservation overlay should automatically

apply to any parcels of land within the proposed area at the time of annexation,

and requests for annexation and zoning should incorporate overlay conditions.

Until then, county zoning ordinances should apply.

I want to emphasize we are not

suggesting that you take away anybody's current property rights. The protections of

the conservation overlay should be inherent in the development plans and not

dependent on the understanding, training, and goodwill of developers, builders,

and homeowners, and not dependent on

management practices that require long-term monitoring and maintenance. In

traditional subdivision, there's disturbance of the land -- uses up lots of land and

has lots of impervious surface, and in conservation subdivision clustering

conserves land, trees, and soil and reduces impervious surface. Finally, we request

moratorium of 18 months on annexation and zoning of parcels within the

proposed area to give the ad hoc committee time to develop conservation overlay

homeowners association or best

and the council and community time to consider it. Thank you very much for your

time.

SKALA: Thank you Ms. Weaver. Any questions for Ms. Weaver?

typically do not comment on these but at the end of the meeting

will be some council comments and I anticipate some discussion.

WEAVER: I will be here if there are any questions.

expect -- we

suspect there

SKALA: Thank you.

SPC54-21

SPC55-21

William Easley - Transit system, garbage, phone system, how the City

doesn't want to help low income people, and the law.

William Easley was not in attendance.

Martha Brownlee-Duffeck - Lessons learned from the City's 2022 budget

priorities and processes.

Martha Brownlee-Duffeck spoke.

BROWNLEE-DUFFECK: Okay, good evening and thank you for having me for public

comment. I've been coming to the city council meetings since 2015, but as

lightweight. Giving or listening to public comments and then staying only for

specific issues, but never staying until the bitter end. did this for the first time on

September 20th to hear the end of the very confusing 2022 budget verses ARPA

summer, and want to say that salute everyone on this dais for your stamina and

endurance. Last week learned that our beloved Fourth Ward Councilperson, Ian

Thomas will not be seeking re-election, and when encouraged somebody highly

respect to consider to running, their response was that essentially it would be an

up paid full-time job. And thought, wow. Props to you, Ms. Waner. You already

have full time job with your 5 year old plus whatever else you do. So, thought,

yeah, and it's probably thankless job at that. In any event, wanted to begin by

thanking all of you for your time and dedication. want to do better as citizen. So

wanted to better understand issues that are going on with our city and in that spirit,

dove into watching the May 26 video of the budget work session with great

interest. The mayor said that he wanted the city's use of ARPA funds to be

transformational. Me too. He went on to talk about creating new beautifully

landscaped exit off I-70, directly onto College Avenue, which would be redone as

primary north-south artery. He showed

beautifully landscaped it looked like

slide of

water retention pond so

luxury vacation destination. He explained

that Business Loop would need three such ponds for its redevelopment as

business and entrepreneurial hub for the city. He painted vision of green space

and trails along the entire Business Loop corridor. To me, the mayor's vision

seemed tone deaf for our time when the pandemic has laid bare the food and

housing insecurity in our own community, when the lack of affordable high-quality

daycare is keeping women out of the work place in record numbers. As

psychologist who worked almost 40 years with people with chronic medical illness

and disability, can tell you professionally that in time of crisis people's

a clinical

bandwidth narrows to the next step to get through to the next hour the next day.

Even before the pandemic when many college graduates were working at the same

low wage hospitality jobs they had during college and graduates of technical

schools made higher wages than college graduates, and only 50 percent of small

businesses, according to Forbes survive the first five years, it would seem that we

may have

to come up with, and that would seem to me to be

have been, than was described, but that's me and I'm not the person --

time to explore what kinds of job retraining as well as original training

bigger priority than would

have been

so fortunate and not been primarily impacted, so we need to focus these funds on

the people who are most vulnerable. So professionally, real solutions begin with

meaningful engagement. For some light pandemic reading, Good Economics for

Hard Times by Abhitjit Banerjee and Esther Duflo. They are economists who won

the 2019 Nobel Prize, and they actually confirmed with their work that people do

best, ah, just as my clinical experience showed, when they are treated with dignity

and respect. And they benefit from genuine engagement and the belief in their

having

say in their own lives. So,

would like to thank Congressperson Waner

would ask that you all vote to

for coming with

plan for public engagement.

include qualitative as well as quantitative data, and make that public engagement

process an outreach process. People who are stressed and in crisis do not come to

City Council. That's just simply what is. And anyway, you will hear more.

I actually

downloaded the 576 page copy of the 2022 City budget, and barely scratched the

surface, but the most striking thing to me was, you have beautiful graphics that

breakdown by race the differences between the differences between median

income, almost half unemployment, living in poverty -- all of these things are

beautifully illustrated and props to whoever is doing that. There was beautifully

written statement about equity, and want us to live those values. don't mean to

be preachy. feel like our spending doesn’t reflect that. benefit from the airport. I

fly out of it. My adult children fly home to me on it, but we’ve used CARES money in

addition to all of the city money that we've used. We need to pay attention to

people who are most impacted with this precious rescue fund, so please vote for

public process. Thank you.

SKALA: Thank you, Ms. Duffeck. Any questions for the speaker? Please.

to take my prerogative to -- normally would not comment on these kinds of things,

but wish you would have been able to take advantage of listening into our work

session, and think you would be reassured as to some of the direction that we had

at least discussed with respect to what you've been, you’ve been, talking about.

BROWNLEE-DUFFECK: guarantee will be listening to the video of that at

date. did listen to Ms. Waner's presentation at the Muleskinners, and so felt

good idea about that. And

I just want

later

had

have been listening to the work sessions actually

in-person throughout the summer when we were but were not talking about ARPA

funds, where the work session specified what the funds could and couldn’t be used

for, so I'm not not doing that, but thank you.

SKALA:

wasn't insinuating that you weren't.

just,

wish you would have been

there. You would have been encouraged by the discussion. That's all. Let’s move on

to public hearings.

FOWLER:

I think this would be the time to everyone know there is no video of the

work session. There is an audio recording that we hope will have picked up the

conversation, and at the end of council,

in this room. Thank you.

I want to ask about keeping work sessions

SKALA: Sure, by all means.

V. PUBLIC HEARINGS

PH37-21

Proposed construction of the Landfill Fuel Station improvement project

located at 5700 Peabody Road to include the installation of two (2) diesel

fuel dispensers and metal canopy with lights, concrete pavement, storm

water inlet and piping, and upgrades to the mechanical and electrical

systems and existing control and fuel monitoring equipment.

PH37-21 was read by City Clerk Sheela Amin.

Utilities Director David Sorrell provided a staff report.

SORRELL: David Sorrell, Director of Utilities. As Sheela said, this public hearing for

the landfill fuel station improvement project. I’d just upgrade our fueling facility at

the landfill. The current facility consists of one diesel dispenser with two nozzles

and on regular gasoline dispenser with one nozzle. And it’s on

a gravel lot. It's not

adequate to fuel all the equipment, vehicles at the landfill, as well as our collection

and administrative vehicles, so we're asking to do the upgrades. The improvements

would add two additional diesel pumps, each with two nozzles, and approximately,

11,000 square feet of pavement,

canopy with lighting, storm water inlets and

piping, and upgrades to the existing controls and fuel monitoring equipment. So if

we put this in, this should allow all of our fleet that is gasoline or diesel to be

fueled at this site, not have to travel to Grissum facility to fuel any longer. If we put

it in, it would also allow for this facility to be used by other departments, police,

fire, sewer, fleet, whatever. If we had fuel facilities at the Grissum Building or at

parks or the wastewater plant that were out of service. As part of our public

improvement process, we had

virtual IP meeting between April 9 and April 23rd

of this year, and then -- we then had an in-person interested parties meeting on

August 21. We received two comments and neither were opposed to the project.

We estimate this to cost approximately $450,000, and it would be paid for with solid

waste enterprise revenue fund, and with that be happy to try to answer any

questions.

SKALA: Any questions for Mr. Sorrell. Thank you.

Mayor Pro Tem Skala opened the public hearing.

There being no comment, Mayor Pro Tem Skala closed the public hearing.

Council Member Pitzer made a motion to direct staff to proceed with plans and

specifications for the landfill fuel station improvement project. The motion was

seconded by Council Member Peters and approved unanimously by voice vote.

PH38-21

B312-21

Proposed replacement of the aggregate pool shell in the Water Zone area

at the Activity & Recreation Center (ARC).

Discussion shown with B312-21.

Authorizing replacement of the aggregate pool shell in the Water Zone area

at the Activity & Recreation Center (ARC); calling for bids through the

Purchasing Division.

PH38-21 was read by City Clerk Sheela Amin and B312-21 was given

second reading by City Clerk Sheela Amin.

Parks and Recreation Director Mike Griggs provided a staff report.

GRIGGS: Thank you, Mayor-Council, Mike Griggs, Parks and Recreation Director. This

project’s located in Ward 1 at the Clary-Shy Park in the ARC, our Activity Recreation

Center. While it is in Ward 1, it is definitely one of those projects that service the

entire city. It’s also home of the MU Healthcare pavilion, which serves as

a home for

the Columbia Farmers Market, and of course, our garden display area with --

managed by the CCUA. This project includes our water zone area which is about

13,000 square foot indoor aquatic area. It’s got triple loop water slide, vortex,

hydrotherapy pool, an interactive water play structure, 3-yard lap lanes,

and when we constructed it at the time when the ARC was built, the, they

-everybody was using product called Pebble Tec, which is basically cement with

lazy river,

pebbles in it. It’s blown on the side of the wall. After you put the concrete shell

down, you put this on it, and then when it's kind of wet, you wipe it off and it

leaves this gorgeous pebble granular finish. It does not require any painting. Very

minimal maintenance, and it's been really great for the last, you know, since 19

years or 18 ½ maybe. Let me say it's been great for that time period. Unfortunately,

in the last 12 to 18 months, it's deteriorating in certain spots. And you can see this

from the photos where -- you can see this from when you vacuum the pool -- this is

what comes up. People were complaining about stepping on gravel at the bottom

of the pool, not figuring out where it is. And you can see by looking at that image

there where you can see the patches, it’s also that gravel stuff gets into our sprays

and it clogs them up, causing them to like spray where they shouldn’t be spraying

and on people who shouldn’t be getting wet so that was an issue. And we've tried

to patch it. You know we've done several attempts to patch it, but unfortunately

that is not the quality patching work we like to see, and so it was time for us to

come up with

citizens of Columbia for passing our 2015 one where we have annual money for

these kind of major maintenance projects and so we set up project in the 2022 CIP

of $135,000 to do this. The contractor was going to come in, prep the pool, remove

all the loose surfacing, apply new coat of pebble sheen. It’s really the same

a project -- and again, thank you for our parks sales tax -- to the

product but just smaller pebbles on all the areas. The only spot where we won’t do

it is the water play structure, and the reason we’re not going to do that water play

structure is that we need to replace that water play structure, and they have that as

ballot issue project in our 2021 park sales tax so that will be the time that when

we do new water play structure, we’ll redo that area at that that time. Ah, but

we’re going to roughly do about 4,700 square foot. Our water therapy pool is all tile

so that's not part of this project. So we're going to close the pool, unfortunately, for

about

a month to do this work. When we try to look at the bids, we're getting

pricing of $200,000 and all that to meet our 14-day period, and so we said what's an

ideal time frame for you guys to do the work, which was November to December,

so therefore, our pricing was under $135,000. So it saved us about $70,000 by doing

it at a time period that's not great for us or our patrons, but it’s certainly a more cost

efficient product for the City. And we’re working with Hickman Pool on how we can

maybe allow some extra water swim use at Hickman Pool during that time period.

Also, while we're closed, we're going to do some other maintenance on the pool --

work on the pool heater, the fan assemblies, and general cleaning and painting up

around where we can get scaffolding up in the pool deck and not to have to worry

about it. So then starting in August 22, we'll go back to our normal rotation of

shutting the pool down for about ten days to do these kind of major maintenance

items at that time so. We did have an online meeting and

I think the comments

were more along the lines of it's about time, glad you're doing it, and so that was it.

The Parks and Rec Commission reviewed and voted to support the sports project at

their September meeting, and so staff requesting council approval of the ordinance

authorizing the project. Available to answer any questions you may have.

WANER: Will this impact the 48-inch height requirement for the slide so that my

son can finally go down the slide?

GRIGGS: No, I’m afraid it’ll still be the same.

WANER: I will have to continue feeding him, okay.

GRIGGS: Yes,

I went through that too with my children so. They wouldn’t even bend

the rules for me so -- ha ha ha ha ha.

WANER: Fair.

PETERS: Is there any chance that the pool would be open sooner? Any chance they

could get this done in three weeks instead of four?

GRIGGS: There could be, yes. This is, yes, we’d much rather say we’re going to keep

it closed for that time period, and if they get done sooner, we’ll open it sooner for

sure. But we’re going to come in late at night after the last day on the 12th or the

11th and drain the pool so that way -- and we’ll get it all ready for them so when

they show up, that’s all they’re doing.

PETERS: Okay, great. Thank you.

Mayor Pro Tem Skala opened the public hearing.

There being no comment, Mayor Pro Tem Skala closed the public hearing.

B312-21 was given third reading by the City Clerk with the vote recorded as

follows: VOTING YES: FOWLER, WANER, SKALA, THOMAS, PITZER, PETERS.

VOTING NO: NO ONE. ABSENT: TREECE. Bill declared enacted, reading as

follows:

VI. OLD BUSINESS

B259-21

Amending Chapter 21 of the City Code relating to the Citizens Police

Review Board.

The bill was given second reading by City Clerk Sheela Amin.

City Counselor Nancy Thompson provided a staff report.

THOMPSON: On this particular item, staff is requesting that the matter be

continued so that we can continue the discussions with the CPOA to try to reach

some resolution on the changes to Chapter 21. We are very close. We think we

actually have a really good solution that is being supported by all those involved.

Council Member Peters made a motion to table B259-21 to the November 1, 2021

Council Meeting. The motion was seconded by Council Member Pitzer and

approved unanimously by voice vote.

B298-21

Rezoning property located on the north side of St. Charles Road and

approximately 500 feet west of Grace Lane (5301 St. Charles Road) from

District R-1 (One-family Dwelling) to District M-C (Mixed Use-Corridor)

(Case No. 221-2021).

The bill was given second reading by City Clerk Sheela Amin.

Mayor Pro Tem Skala explained the City had received notification from the

applicant that this item had been withdrawn.

B296-21

Voluntary annexation of property located along both sides of Van Horn

Tavern Road and east of Highway UU (5500 W. Van Horn Tavern Road);

establishing permanent District O (Open Space) and District M-N

(Mixed-use Neighborhood) zoning (Case No. 227-2021).

Discussion shown with B297-21.

B297-21

Granting the issuance of a conditional use permit to MFL Golf, LLC to allow

“outdoor recreation or entertainment” uses on property located at 5500 W.

Van Horn Tavern Road in an O (Open Space) zoning district (Case No.

253-2021).

The bills were given second reading by City Clerk Sheela Amin.

Community Development Director Tim Teddy responded to questions of

the Council.

SKALA: Ms. Fowler, would you like a staff report?

FOWLER: Yes. I, also, can bring my question forward and ask Mr. Teddy to answer

that, and that is how

was contacted by

voluntary annexation ended up on the consent agenda. My --

member of the Planning and Zoning Commission, and they

advised me that while they had an opportunity for hearing and to vote on the

underlying issuance of conditional use permit, they did not have an opportunity to

vote on the annexation and the assignment of the zoning category. And so, they

were concerned that this became

consent item. And to the City Clerk’s

did

overlook including the other voluntary annexation, but

to answer the question and it’ll apply to all of them.

think we’ll get Mr. Teddy

TEDDY: Sure, when we do

type of zoning classification upon coming into the city so the Commission will

conduct public hearing on the zoning. They do not have hearing about the

annexation per se. So it’s really -- the direction give is it’s to hear the proposed

voluntary annexations -- all annexations require some

zoning proposal as if it were part of the city. So that's the recommendation that

comes to you -- is the, the land use upon annexation. They also have rules that

were devised

decisive majority vote in favor of

consent unless removed at the request of the public before

the request of council as, as the case tonight. So this one was recommended by the

Commission as to the O-zoning and the MN -- Open Space is what the stands for

and MN, the neighborhood commercial for portion of that site. So that's why it

number of years ago that

zoning item -- we’ll then schedule that item for

certain deadline or at

think you’re familiar with, where

appears on your consent agenda. Of course, it’s council's prerogative to request

those items to be removed if you want to talk about them. We did have an

annexation hearing.

Fowler: May

continue? So, we had an annexation hearing at the last council

was always under the

meeting. We took no action, but we did take public input.

impression that under State Law, we would have two hearings on annexation, and

so the fact that this then was rolled into the consent agenda -- in essence, we aren't

having that second hearing. Would

a better practice be that when it is annexation,

whether it’s voluntary or the city is making the decision to annex, that we go ahead

and keep it on the regular agenda?

Teddy:

quite sometime. It’s generally the smaller scale annexations that and relatively

simple zoning cases behind them that wind up remaining on consent, but think it

would be policy of the council whether you wanted to make all annexations two

hearing affair. We have to have that 14 days between the so called annexation

I think that would be up to the council. We have been doing this system for

hearing and the actual ordinance.

SKALA: Yeah, there's usually a public hearing.

TEDDY: That’s in the statute.

THOMPSON: So there is the statutory public hearing which is what appears on your

agenda, and then

hearing is actually just public comment. There is no second statutory public hearing

or hearing required by the City Code as far as public hearing is concerned. Public

comment is allowed on every agenda item that is on that is on the council’s regular

agenda. So think -- just didn't want to mix those terms because public hearing

think the second item that you are referencing as

public

has very legal due process requirements attached to it.

FOWLER: So we’ve have already had that.

THOMPSON: Correct -- the public hearing.

FOWLER: So the public hearing was a one-and-done that we did 14 days ago.

THOMPSON: Correct. Typically, so, so when it comes to land use matters, the

evidence that’s adduced during the public hearing is what -- if there is an appeal of

that particular land use matter -- that’s the record that is going to be used for that

purpose. So,

I would encourage people if they want to comment on an annexation

that they really should do that during the public hearing portion of an annexation.

That's the most important time to do that.

FOWLER:

believe we may have public comment tonight on this, but

understand

the public hearing issue better.

SKALA: Do you want

into the public hearing?

a bit more of a description of these two bills before we move

FOWLER: I don't require an additional -- but maybe other members of council do.

PITZER: Point of order of the chair:

SKALA: Just

summary.

brief,

brief --

think that's what we are asking for -- just

a brief

PETERS: Well there was

request to table both of these, and so -- I

think it came in

sometime around noon because the property --

SKALA: Really?

PETERS: It was in an email from Mr. Crockett.

PITZER: It was like 4:00.

SKALA: Let me open up the public hearing and Mr. Crockett can answer our

questions. How about that?

PETERS: That would be my question of the point of order though. So we are going to

go ahead and do this hearing.

SKALA: Let me open the public comment session, and Mr. Crockett can perhaps

answer your question.

CROCKETT: Yes, thank you. Mr. Skala, members of the council, Tim crockett,

Crockett Engineering Consultants, 100 W. Nifong. The request was made once we

found out that these items were being pulled off of consent. The owner of the

property is not able to be in attendance tonight so we’d like

- he’d like to have

been here. The tenant is able to be here -- who runs the operation, but the

landowner himself is not, and so that was the reason for the request to table. And

so, we’ve asked to table this project -- these two items for two weeks so they can

be here in attendance if council takes this up. I’m happy to answer any questions

with regards to this.

think there was some comments made in the last public

hearing for the annexation that need clarification. I’m happy to do that tonight or

we could do that -- if the council is so inclined to table this, we can do that in two

weeks.

SKALA: So there is a request to table to the October 18th meeting, is that correct?

CROCKETT: Yes, sir. Yes, sir.

SKALA: I’ll entertain

motion to table to the October 18th meeting if someone

wants to offer it since the applicant is asking for it.

Council Member Peters made

motion to table B296-21 and

The motion was

B297-21 to the October 18, 2022 Council Meeting.

seconded by Council Member Pitzer and approved unanimously by

voice vote with the exception of Council Member Waner who had

stepped away during the vote on this motion.

SKALA: So that obviates the need for the rest of the comment. That will continue --

THOMAS: Well, no,

tonight expecting that to be --

SKALA: If there is anyone in the audience that wants to comment on this --

think we should allow public comment. People did come

THOMAS: If anybody wishes to comment on these bills,

that opportunity.

think they should have

PETERS: And we’ve certainly done that before, and then, if they comment tonight,

then that suffices for the one in two weeks.

SKALA: Please, I’d be interested if anyone has

was little bit of confusion in terms of withdrawing this for

withdrawing it, but tabling this motion. If anybody has comment, please come

comment on this issue since there

tabling not

forward. Seeing none, let's close the comment session. So this issue will be tabled

until October 18th meeting.

PITZER: Point of order for the chair -- so there were two bills, do we need to

maybe for the Clerk -- do we need to table both or does that one motion suffice for

both?

SKALA: I think it comes - I think it will come as a package.

PITZER: Okay. I’m fine with that.

AMIN: Okay,

I -- the motion made by Peters, seconded by Pitzer, to table to October

18th was for both bills, 296-21 and 297-21, and everybody was agreeable except Ms.

Waner, who stepped out. The minutes will reflect that.

SKALA: That’s my understanding.

AMIN: Are we all good with that?

SKALA: Yes.

PITZER: Yes, thank you.

AMIN: The minutes will reflect that. Thank you.

B299-21

Rezoning property located on the east side of Fay Street and the west side

of College Avenue (504 Fay Street) from District M-N (Mixed-use

Neighborhood) to District IG (Industrial) (Case No. 225-2021).

Discussion shown with B301-21.

B300-21

B301-21

Approving the Final Plat of “Central Addition Plat No. 2-A” located on the

east side of Fay Street and the west side of College Avenue (Case No.

223-2021).

Discussion shown with B301-21.

Approving the Final Plat of “Central Addition Plat No. 3” located on the

west side of Fay Street (509 Fay Street); authorizing a performance

contract (Case No. 244-2021).

The bills were given second reading by City Clerk Sheela Amin.

Community Development Director Tim Teddy provided a staff report.

TEDDY: These are three interrelated items. This is the Logboat Brewery location,

northeast of Hinkson Avenue and Fay Street, little over an acre in size. And the first

part is

a rezoning request, and that's to rezone parts of the site from MN, Mixed Use

Neighborhood district to the IG, Industrial district, and the existing brewery is

zoned industrial so the action would basically unify that entire site as industrial

zoning. Here's an overview for those wanting to see this in more context. It does

extend -- the proposal does extend to College Avenue, although that wasn't one of

the addresses that I’ve just mentioned, but you can see Hinkson is on the south

side

classifications, and there’s two areas highlighted in red.

1 - that’s between the existing brewery and College Avenue, and then

, Fay is on the west side. And here’s a map that shows our existing zoning

zoning description

Tract

second

area that’s between the brewery and Hinkson Avenue. So, those are the two areas

that are proposed to be rezoned. Just another view of the surrounding zoning.

That’s Benton Stephens neighborhood, east of College there. The orange is

multi-family, the deep pink is

can see some of the industrial that’s on both sides of Fay as well as north on college

where the COLT railroad crosses. Second action is replat, and this is taking existing

a commercial category, and gray is industrial. So you

lots in portions of existing platted lots, consolidating them together to make this

one single site. Along with that, the city is obtaining dedications of street

right-of-way, no expansions of the streets, but just additional right-of-way that

could be considered part of the public space in the future, and that’s on all three of

the fronting streets. And, this illustration

some additional right-of-way on Fay, on Hinkson. There’s, in the yellow, some

additional right-of-way taken from College, which although it’s wide street --

according to our street classification, we have that as major arterial so that

I’ll highlight those. You can see there’s

additional right-of-way was required as part of our platting process to make that

standard half-width for that classification of road. And then the third piece is

three sided lot that’s owned by White Oak, which is the same ownership as the

brewery, and it’s used currently for parking, and their intention is to use it as

parking lot into the future, and they would consolidate two lots in that location. 509

Fay Street’s the common address. It does abut the COLT right-of-way, and it also

dedicates some right-of-way on [inaudible]. These are the recommendations that

came out of the Planning and Zoning Commission -- approval to IG and approval of

the plat known as 2A. Plat 3 comes directly to you, and the reason you had

a plat

going to the Planning and Zoning Commission was initially there was design

adjustments, so it was placed on their agenda to consider those design

adjustments. Those were later withdrawn, and they had to do with right-of-way

dedication. Plat 3 comes directly to you. And the Commission's recommendation on

the zoning and the Plat 2A is 7 in favor, none against. We did have one member

abstain. I’ll try to answer any questions you have.

SKALA: Any questions for Director Teddy?

FOWLER: Yes, and

asked to pull this because there were members of the

neighborhood associations on both sides of College that had some concerns. And

we do also have

to pose as well.

concern that came in on e-mail at 6:09 tonight, which

I would like

have question about how -- understand that they want to -- that

Logboat wants to expand their manufacturing capacity. And, can you tell me where,

or maybe the applicant can speak to it, where the trucks that move the product

enter and exit from their manufacturing facility.

TEDDY: You’re talking about the existing operation or --

FOWLER: Or where they are proposing to have their trucks come in and out.

TEDDY:

think it would be appropriate for Logboat representatives to explain that

cause we don't have

building plans as part of it.

a building plan. We’ve seen a concept for it, but we don't have

FOWLER: may

ask the next question before you disappear?

don't want to have

you just keep getting up and down. When we have

community -- would it be okay, mayor, if I read it allowed?

SKALA: By all means.

request from member of the

FOWLER:

assume you got the same one. It’s from Greg Ahrens, and its regarding

would ask

the Logboat brewing expansion. In memory of the Kathleen Weinschenk,

that Logboat install an elevator to the large meeting room upstairs or close it before

any expansion is approved city council. Separate but equal is not equal if it’s not

accessible to all. Sincerely, Greg Ahrens. Is there

a requirement for the amount of

renovation that they’re going to do that they would have to put in an elevator to

second floor meeting room?

TEDDY:

I think we’d have to look at the character of the space and whether or not

it’s duplicate space above. ADA will require that any spaces that are different in

function be made accessible so that will be part of the building plan review. In

some cases where accommodation can be made on

a main floor level, it may not

have to be made accessible to that extent, but if there are different functions, the

usual rule is that those have to be accessible in

the public.

a commercial space that's open to

FOWLER: And now that this request has come in, will that go into your building

review process?

TEDDY: That’s correct. Once they file for building permit review, there will be

commercial plan review process.

FOWLER: And then my other question about this -- and

I know we’re going to have

public comment -- is about the impacts of -- we have several other things

happening in this intersection that are coming up to us. The property owner has

reached out to both neighborhoods already, and that involves -- that’s going by

pretty fast for me

so Hinkson Ave. borders on the red boundary there as it comes

an intersection that may or may

across and enters onto College, and then we have

not be realigned at some point with Petromart across the street, and then Rogers

curves into College and then continues as Paris Road. At what point do we trigger --

with this much additional development going on in this area -- at what point do we

trigger an inquiry as to road improvements.

that correct?

know College belongs to MoDOT. Is

TEDDY: Uh-huh. That's correct, yeah.

FOWLER: They have jurisdiction over it, but we have jurisdiction over,

would

assume, Rogers and Paris Road and also Hinkson that goes across. Are we -- give me

some information about when we start looking at those intersections?

TEDDY: In the development process, regardless of zoning, if is there is

building or development that’s going generate 100 trips or more at peak hour, and

that could be morning peak or an evening peak, or even an afternoon peak,

depends on the nature of the business, our Code says we request -- we can request

traffic impact analysis. So again, that would be something that may be done with

the building review. don’t -- didn't see an indication that this being production

facility would necessarily have those kinds of peaks. You get those peaks with like

a proposed

major convenience store and fuel sales and with fast food and things like that, or

some aggregation of development. Yeah, agree that’s fairly complex five points

intersection there, not even looking at Hinkson to the west where we’re having

quite the revitalization activity now so think it is something to put on the radar to

start talking with the traffic engineers about how we’re going to manage, not only

for Logboat, but any collateral development that’s attracted to that area. We’ve got

mixed use building north of the railroad tracks, just to the west that’s under

construction. You’ve probably seen -- there’s some things in motion there.

FOWLER: Is it your understanding that for the uses that this particular replat and

rezone is -- that that would probably not trigger it, but the Petromart across the

street when they’re in expansion mode -- would that probably be the trigger if

we’re looking at the intersection difficulties?

TEDDY:

I don't want to speculate until I see the specific data, but yeah, I mean there

are some scenarios where, you know, we may just want to ask various property

owners that are engaged in development to maybe participate in the study. That's

another thing you can do. Maybe at district level -- if we know what the problems

are that are likely to occur, we can anticipate them and maybe look at some things

like that.

FOWLER: Thank you for answering my questions.

SKALA: Ms. Fowler, that’s certainly germane to

germane to this particular -- and fully realize it’s all involved and you have to

connect the dots. Nonetheless, let’s restrict our questions to the issue of this.

planning discussion, but it’s not

FOWLER: Well,

correction.

think

was right on point there, Karl, but thank you for the

SKALA: Well, I think you were not.

SKALA: Mr. Thomas.

THOMAS:

have some questions from Tim, but did you want somebody from

Logboat to respond to your question about the --

SKALA: We will get into that hearing, and we can reserve that question.

THOMAS: So Tim, could you go back to the graphic showing the additional

right-of-way for College Avenue and Hinkson Avenue and Fay Street? So, what is

the half-width required for College Avenue?

TEDDY: It’s -- 8 to 14 feet is what you are seeing there, in that kind of tapered --

THOMAS: An additional 8 to 14?

TEDDY: Yes, and that’s to make

a required half width, and if you look at what the

engineer has done, the center line of college is not exactly parallel to the property

line. That’s why you have that condition. It’s slightly trending away from it.

want to say curving it. don’t know if it is necessarily curve. It might be

radius curve that’s there, but, yeah, it’s not perfectly [inaudible].

THOMAS: And, does that assume adding additional traffic lanes to college?

don't

large

TEDDY: No, no, it -- the road is what it is for the foreseeable future. It already has

sidewalk, it already has curb and gutter, it already has multiple lanes striped so it’s

what we make of it in the future. I’d view it as banking the right-of-way for now,

and you know, you never know what you might want to do with College far into the

future, and right-of-way is not just for lane capacity. It’s for things like parkways,

bike lanes.

enabled or restrained from the amount of right-of-way you have so it’s really

matter of what kind of street standard you want to go with there. But our Code says

it ought to be wider arterial right-of-way, not -- it’s not commentary on the

mean there’s any number of improvements. Street standards are

pavement. Some of the lanes are kind of skinny, but you know, that’s to get the

multiple lanes in there.

THOMAS: Uh-huh, and so that is part of the City Code. So to change that would be

just straight forward ordinance. If the council wanted to change the desired

long-term half-width right-of-ways for any particular reason that would just be

simple ordinance to bring forward and discuss.

TEDDY: Yeah, and I’d -- we brought this up before -- that when we do the

comprehensive plan, we want to examine some of these major corridors as to what

is the built environment that -- and this is, you know, meandering from the topic

just

bit, but to provide some context for this site. We want to look at the character

redevelopment area, is it highly stable and

of the buildings, also the trend -- is it

staying as it is area, or is it something in between? And, that can factor into your

decision to right size that right-of-way. We already have in the street standards -- it

is stated that when doing

been done in some projects based on input and also the council's review of city

street and road projects. You can customize it bit. That flexibility is already in

a public project, council can vary the standards, and that’s

there. We want to get some model right-of-ways in place ultimately for some of

these in-city [inaudible] corridors.

THOMAS:

colleagues and the public,

too large, and they anticipate, you know, continuing large volumes of traffic, and

there are lot of benefits to keeping narrower, narrower streets and narrower

appreciate the clarification. Just to sort of express to my council

don't think -- feel like the desired right-of-way is far

right-of-ways. But I have no suggestion to make on that.

SKALA: Appreciate your comments Mr. Thomas, but let's keep it on the questions

with this. Just before

Reviewing some of the Planning and Zoning Commission minutes and the video,

there was some conversation of surrounding neighborhoods and parking in

open the public hearing for comment,

had

question.

particular, and this may apply in case the applicant wants to speak to this issue as

well. Have there been some accommodations with respect to that. There were

some folks who were obviously very worried about overflow parking in an area

that’s already somewhat congested, the Benton Stephens area.

TEDDY: There's

a parking lot, a small one, right at the brewery entrance off of the

corner of Hinkson and Fay, and then there’s that offsite lot that’s really quite close

so those are the two available parking areas. Plus striped unmetered on-street

parallel spaces exist

calculations again when we have building drawings. We look at the type of space

and then each one has characteristic parking generation per Code. Then we’ll run

I know on one side of the street. So, that’s the supply. Will run

that and then we’ll inform the applicant either they need it or they do not. If they

don't, they might want to explore some options for maybe some additional off-site

parking.

think we are recognizing, and we’ve talked to the Planning and Zoning

Commission about that being an anticipated issue with -- it’s not one addition.

think there's two, two-phased editions that are part of this project from our

conversations with the applicant.

SKALA: Thank you. Any other questions? Well, let me ask the public to speak to this

issue.

STEPHENS: Hello. I’m Jesse Stephens with Crockett Engineering. If you don't mind,

have quick powerpoint I’ll put in here. It might answer some of your questions.

So just to give -- thank Mr. Teddy for giving the update. Basically, what we’re

presenting for you today staring off with 1.0 acre tract. We’re actually giving up

about 1.1 acres of city right-of-way. Most of the deficiency is along Fay and Hinkson

so we’ll get the standard half-width. We’re also giving up some along College that

you have already seen.

I want to show you some -- this is kind of the location along

College Avenue. The two blue hatched areas with old houses that existed previous.

What you can see up there is our new driveway location that’s coming into the

facility. We’ve had lot of discussion about this at P&Z but the intent of all of our

access along College Avenue is not for deliveries, not for any sort of raw material

import, beer export, any of the nature of that. It is simply door that allows them

year, every other year, they

to get large sized tanks in and out in the event -- once

need to get the new tank in or out.

SKALA: Could

I just suggest that you speak a little closer to the mic. The city clerk

was having a little difficulty.

STEPHENS: Okay, no problem. The houses -- as you can see our new building is

going to be further, farther away from College than what existed previously. So,

this kind of gives the full picture of what we are trying to do, the driveway off

College, the expanded bar area. There is our existing parking lot. The triangular lot

that’s along Fay Street -- it’s just

a gravel lot now. Part of this project would be to

completely improve that into legitimate parking lot that has more parking than is

available currently. This is kind of some of the landscaping they’ve got now.

Logboat does an immaculate job of with trying to maintain their property.

[Inaudible] concern along College -- this is what it’s going to look like along College

Avenue. If there’s any concern, there’d be windows, there would be landscaping

and all of the treatments to try to make it look appealing like Logboat does now.

There’s just another view. That’s kind of the general overview of how we’re

expanding the existing versus proposed. And, I’ll be happy to answer any

questions.

SKALA: Any questions for this speaker? Ms. Fowler, did you have any questions?

FOWLER: Uh-uh.

SKALA: Thank you.

PETERS: I have a question.

SKALA: I’m sorry.

PETERS:

I know, I’m to the left. So is there -- it didn’t look like there was a driveway

or any way to back -- to get back to the building from College. So you said there

were going to be big doors or

or out every year or two.

a big door in case you needed to move large tanks in

STEPHENS: Correct.

PETERS: How are you going to do that?

STEPHENS: Sure, sure. In that event, we would get a, we would get

permit. mean, those things are huge. They’re going to require oversize load

permit. We would -- there would be MoDOT permit with traffic control plan to

actually like temporarily block lane of traffic. It’s very limited in nature how long

MoDOT

that happens. Other than that, that's the intent. We have no other way to get these

large tanks in or out of the building.

PETERS: So everything else -- to Ms. Fowler's question earlier was

they going to move other product. What streets are they going to use for that?

- how, how are

STEPHENS: The product is currently all moved in and off of Fay Street, and that will

continue just like it is now. So there is loading dock that we have along Fay Street

so we’re not loading on and off College. We’ve got

existing facility has a loading dock.

FOWLER: Can I ask a follow-up?

a whole loading dock bay. The

SKALA: Sure.

FOWLER: When you say Fay, are you -- does that mean you’re going in and out,

going north on Fay or do you try to round that corner?

STEPHENS: No, they, they come in -- there’s there -- they don't try to round the

corner through the parking lot. There’s another -

FOWLER: No, no, no, no. The intersection of

over there now, and so as far as if you came down Fay Street and turned onto

Hinkson. So, are -- have not seen the loading dock. Next time I’m up there, I’ll

- you know it’s quite busy and lively

look. So the loading dock goes goes -- the truck comes down Fay Street and then

goes up Fay Street or tries to make the corner onto Hinkson and out onto College?

STEPHENS:

believe that’s case. Tyson with Logboat might be able to answer their

little bit better. He can come up here and speak to that affect.

traffic pattern

Generally speaking, they’re loading and unloading activities are happening during

the normal business hours when tasting room is generally closed and traffic is

generally

a lot less during that time. And they -- when they’re open for their tasting

room and bar activities, they’re not doing those kind of loading and unloading

activities.

SKALA: Any other questions? Thank you. Anyone else wish to speak to these three

bills or any or all of them?

NORGARD: Good evening, Peter Norgard, 1602 Hinkson Avenue.

approximately agnostic on the passage of these particular bills. will say that

some concerns about ancillary outcomes related to this type of development, and

have little bit of concern about the aggressive revitalization of this district if you

will and the impact that it’s going to have on surrounding neighborhoods.

Currently, it’s not very densely used. There's not lot going on. And so, the impact

will say I’m

have

to surrounding neighborhoods is relatively minimal, but as it continues to expand

and without any foresight, I’m concerned that this particular region, not necessarily

this development, but this region is going to create problems for surrounding

neighborhoods. Specific points include parking. I’ve been down -- if anybody’s

been to Mother's Brewery in Springfield, it’s

a very similar layout. They have a large

grass space, they have large brewery center, and they have insufficient parking.

And so what happens when they have big events, which they do, is people end up

parking in surrounding neighborhoods, on surface lots that aren't owned by

Mother's, and it’s just

a problem. And I anticipate that if we continue to develop

this area that, you know, their parking lot may be sufficient for them, but

somebody else might use their parking lot, and before long there's insufficient

parking. So I’m asking council to consider visioning this area and coming up with

cohesive parking plan, or to at least engage the owners of these properties to help

create such

parking plan. Another issue that

have -- they have been good

neighbors and

can't dispute that, but what happens when they get bought out by a

bigger company. You know, they may not want that right now and they might not

anticipate that, but sometime in the future it may happen so their promise to us to

a good neighbor is great, and we really appreciate it, but that promise goes out

the window when they’re not the owner anymore. So we have concerns about

noise and that would certainly fall into that category. And then finally, this area’s

becoming very hip and cool. It’s

it’s going to become an area where people want to live around and where people

want to make money, and Airbnb short-term rental is way to make lot of money

so, personally see this as an opportunity and event horizon. Once we move past

this, once this place becomes really cool and hip, the problem of short-term rental

and unaffordable housing is going to become real problem. House prices in our

a destination, and when it becomes a destination,

neighborhood have increased obscenely. There are 2,000 square foot houses on

lots with less 50 feet by 100 feet that are on the market for $600,000. This is insane.

So, what I’m saying is -- just be careful of your decisions you make tonight because

they will have some follow-on effects, and perhaps, we need to have an

opportunity to pause and create a vision for this area. And, that's all I have.

SKALA: Any questions for Mr. Norgard? Thank you.

SKALA: have question, maybe, maybe, for Mr. Teddy too with respect at least to

some reassurance to Mr. Norgard with respect to parking. I’m not sure

can get

into the future about other owners and so on, but with respect to parking, that’s

part of the process in terms of the review and permitting process to allow people to

finish their project and so on. Isn’t it?

TEDDY: Yeah, that’s right. There’s parking ratios so, you know, industrial space will

require

been called the tasting room -- that’s more of

have little bit of higher ratio. We’ll apply those as part of plan review. We’ll

certain ratio of onsite parking for new industrial space, and then what’s

small assembly space so that will

advise the applicants accordingly. They’ll provide us documentation of the amount

of spaces available in their own lots and any other type of arrangements whether

they’re valet or overflow, you know, using another lot somewhere. But, yeah,

that’ll be part of the review that we do, and then if an adjustment has to be made,

mean they’ll -- the applicant will have to take the next step then to either appeal

that through a variance process or find additional space.

SKALA: In the event -- in

a way of trying to assure someone -- we can't know what

the future is or whether there will be another owner or so on, but they, too, will

have to abide by whatever is in place in terms of the zoning categories and all of

the rest of it unless they make an adjustment then to improve their property by

expanding or something like that.

TEDDY: And, of course our hope is that folks would walk to this location, and, you

know, some of the customers that is, would walk to it from downtown, maybe find

city on-street, or maybe just walk from

a public lot, find their way here. It’s that

close, I mean, that that kind of approach is possible.

SKALA: Thank you. Anyone else wish to address any, each, any, or all of these?

HUNT: Hello, Tyson Hunt, Co-Founder and CEO of Logboat Brewing Company.

Thank’s for having me up here tonight. Would like to address any concerns,

questions. To address your question about traffic flow and deliveries, most of the

time, as Jesse stated, we’re trying to bring in or ship product out before our tap

room is even open. We open at 3:00 p.m. during the week and 1:00 p.m. on Fridays

and Saturdays, and Saturdays we don't have deliveries. Typical flow will go through

our parking lot or come down Hinkson. Sometimes, they’ll come down from north

to south on Fay Street, and then pull into our loading dock, and then -- everybody

that’s been there one time will flow north on Fay because it’s

Hinkson to get out to College there so lot of our truck drivers have been there

numerous times and now know good pattern in order to get out without too much

a little tight around

hassle. So, that's our intention going forward -- is to keep utilization of that loading

dock as our main in and out point. With regard to parking, when we opened eight

years ago, our parking lot that was adjacent to the brewery was plenty of parking

for us to operate as we do. We quickly realized that we need more parking

regardless, and we’ve changed plans for this expansion numerous times so that we

could get people parked safely in and around the brewery. And also, with regard to

seeing how much Fay Street and this district has changed over the past few years,

we needed more parking, and so, we’re investing

a lot of money into the triangular

lot, which will becomes parking for our patrons. The goal of this project overall isn't

necessarily to bring more people to Logboat. It’s to allow the people that do come

to have

-- access to the upstairs is going to be a part of our plan. We do have in the plans to

put in an elevator to service the upstairs for people because believe strongly in

that. We all do -- that we want people to access the entirety of our building and to

a better place to sit and enjoy either the yard, the patio, with adding shade

experience Logboat the way we want them to so that’s definitely part of the plan.

It’s -- it is dream vision for us. After eight years, being in this community, we’re

really excited for this opportunity to grow in downtown Columbia. hope that our

eight years has shown that we are good neighbors and good patrons, and that we

love this city, and we look forward to growing here for

questions anyone might have.

a long time. I’ll answer any

SKALA: Any questions for this speaker? Thank you.

HUNT: Thank you.

SKALA: Anyone else?

SCHWACH: Hi, good evening. Ah, Chimene Schwach, 1232 Sunset Drive.

love that

Logboat is expanding, and

think the project is good.

love the green space.

think that’s all fabulous, and

would like the city

have no problem with their project.

want to echo what the gentlemen said before -- is that the city needs to start

thinking strategically. It sounds like, it looks like, it appears like we are about to

have

second entertainment center that is stretching from downtown. We don't

public transportation plan. We don't have green space planned for the

neighborhood, and like someone said, we are going to when -- always when we

develop, we lose some affordable housing, so we need to be planning what we’re

going to do with the neighborhood around that, and how that looks, and what that's

going to be like in ten years as opposed to just as every business begins to expand,

just letting them expand and then talking about what we are going to do. We can

already see this so we need to start planning for it.

SKALA: Thank you. Any questions? Anyone else? Maybe it’s appropriate to have

last call here.

JEFFERSON: Hello everybody, Barbara Jefferson, 305 North Fifth Street. I’ve lived in

this Fay Street area for long time, and will say like week and half ago,

actually had to walk home and did come down Fay Street. And was surprised and

saddened to see how many businesses are in that area now. When think about any

type of changes as far as increasing business or rezoning something so businesses

can take over more -- don't think people really stop and think about the effect that

it has on the people trying to live in that area 24/7. think about traffic congestion,

and just think, you know -- it's in an area, there's students, and it’s just going to be

more crowds, more noise. And, like the gentlemen spoke earlier, you don't know

what's going to happen 5 or 10 years from now. agree, you don't know. It could get

worse, it could get better. haven't seen too many things get better around here

truthfully, so do think you need to think about when you make changes -- are you

really helping people or taking from people? And see by -- allowing someone to

increase their business in that area at this time, you’re taking from the people.

Thank you.

SKALA: Thank you Ms. Jefferson. Anyone else? Seeing none, let's close the

comment session. Comments by council?

FOWLER: So,

Schwach’s comments about the time is now for some planning. We do have --

Councilperson Peters is leading small group discussion that’s going to happen this

appreciate Mr. Norgard and Ms. Jefferson's comments, and Ms.

week with neighborhood association leaders. And, I’m interested in what comes

out of that and whether or not this kind of planning that we need to do going

forward could be part of the process that she’s contemplating or if it has to be

separate one. But do support this applicant and the work that they’re trying to do

in the neighborhood. see the potential for -- there's lot of stuff happening over

there. And, it’s an expanding employment center for folks within walking distance

that could get jobs there. It’s an expanding entertainment area, which we do need

to be mindful of all the negative impacts that circle around it, but

support their rezoning and their replatting.

I do plan to

SKALA: Anyone else?

SKALA: Just

planning for another area that is developing very quickly. This kind of reminds me

little bit of the Arts District in way -- the way the Arts District evolved. And given

a couple of comments. I think it is important to reinforce this idea of

my background coming from Planning and Zoning for many years, there is always

room for these area plans that anticipate what may be coming. Having said that, we

do have quite

a few protections in place with the process that we have, not that we

shouldn't review it, we should, and make some changes if necessary, particularly if

some of the development in this area or other areas present some exigencies that

we need to address. But I’m pretty confident with the behavior of this company in

this particular area and the development that is occurring at the moment, and some

of the questions that are addressed with the ordinances that we have with respect

to parking and, and our form based codes and all the rest of it in terms of

appearance and whatnot that we can handle this kind of development in another

entertainment center. So I’m inclined to support these bills as well.

B299-21 was given third reading by the City Clerk with the vote recorded as

follows: VOTING YES: FOWLER, WANER, SKALA, THOMAS, PITZER, PETERS.

VOTING NO: NO ONE. ABSENT: TREECE. Bill declared enacted, reading as

follows:

B300-21 was given third reading by the City Clerk with the vote recorded as

follows: VOTING YES: FOWLER, WANER, SKALA, THOMAS, PITZER, PETERS.

VOTING NO: NO ONE. ABSENT: TREECE. Bill declared enacted, reading as

follows:

B301-21 was given third reading by the City Clerk with the vote recorded as

follows: VOTING YES: FOWLER, WANER, SKALA, THOMAS, PITZER, PETERS.

VOTING NO: NO ONE. ABSENT: TREECE. Bill declared enacted, reading as

follows:

VII. CONSENT AGENDA

The following bills were given second reading and the resolutions were

read by City Clerk Sheela Amin.

B295-21

Voluntary annexation of property located on the east side of Scott

Boulevard and west of Persimmon Road (5170 S. Scott Boulevard);

establishing permanent District R-1 (Single-family Dwelling) zoning (Case

No. 216-2021).

B302-21

B303-21

B304-21

Approving the Final Plat of “Pi Beta Phi Plat 1” located on the north side of

Rollins Street and west of Tiger Avenue (511 Rollins Street); authorizing a

performance contract (Case No. 224-2021).

Granting the issuance of a conditional use permit to AnnElise Hatjakes to

allow for the construction of an accessory dwelling unit on property located

at 504 Parkade Boulevard (Case No. 152-2021).

Authorizing an annexation agreement with Equipmentshare.com, Inc. for

property located on the south side of I-70 Drive Southeast, approximately

630 feet east of Tradewinds Parkway (8378 I-70 Drive Southeast) (Case

No. 167-2021).

B305-21

Vacating a utility and drainage easement on Lot 10, Block 2 within Moon

Valley Heights Addition No. 4 located on the west side of Bucks Run (Case

No. 267-2021).

B306-21

B307-21

Accepting conveyances for utility and tree preservation purposes.

Authorizing construction of sanitary sewer infrastructure from the Hinkson

Creek outfall trunk sewer to serve properties along the eastern side of the

Route B industrial corridor; calling for bids through the Purchasing Division

or authorizing a contract for the work using a term and supply contractor.

B308-21

B309-21

B310-21

B311-21

Authorizing an agreement for professional architectural services with

Connell Architecture, P.C. for the design and construction of two (2) vehicle

storage shelters at the Columbia Sanitary Landfill.

Accepting conveyances for utility, drainage, sewer, temporary construction

and temporary access purposes; accepting Stormwater

Management/BMP Facilities Covenants.

Authorizing a memorandum of understanding with the Missouri Department

of Health and Senior Services for the issuance of birth and death

certificates and associated information technology activities.

Amending the FY 2021 Annual Budget by appropriating funds for

COVID-19 expenses associated with the program services contract with

the Missouri Department of Health and Senior Services for public health

emergency preparedness services.

B313-21

Authorizing a contract for sale of real estate and special warranty deed with

Columbia School District No. 93 for the acquisition of property located on

the east side of Sinclair Road, adjacent to John W. Warner Middle School,

to be used for open space and park purposes.

B314-21

R154-21

R155-21

R156-21

R157-21

Amending Chapter 4 of the City Code relating to the sale of alcoholic

beverages.

Setting a public hearing: proposed replacement of water distribution

infrastructure along portions of Garth Avenue and Leslie Lane.

Setting a public hearing: proposed replacement of water distribution

infrastructure along Glenwood Avenue and Glenwood Court.

Setting a public hearing: proposed construction of a water main loop

closure along Sinclair Road from Nifong Boulevard to Southampton Drive.

Setting a public hearing: voluntary annexation of property located on the

south side of I-70 Drive Southeast and west of St. Charles Road (Case No.

307-2021).

R158-21

R159-21

Approving the Preliminary Plat of "Victory Christian Church" located on the

west side of Ballenger Lane and approximately 1,200 feet north of Clark

Lane (1705 Ballenger Lane) (Case No. 197-2021).

Determining that the new Fire Station No. 11 facility qualifies for funding

under the Percent for Art program; authorizing the Commission on Cultural

Affairs Standing Committee on Public Art to begin developing the public art

component for such facility.

The bills were given third reading and the resolutions read by City Clerk Sheela

VIII. NEW BUSINESS

None.

IX. INTRODUCTION AND FIRST READING

The following bills were introduced by Mayor Pro Tem Karl Skala unless

otherwise indicated, and all were given first reading.

B315-21

Granting a design adjustment relating to lot frontage and lot access in

connection with the proposed Final Plat of Freedom House I located on the

west side of William Street and north of Walnut Street (107 N. William

Street); requiring execution of an irrevocable access easement (Case No.

195-2021).

B316-21

B317-21

B318-21

B319-21

B320-21

Approving the Final Plat of “Freedom House I” located on the west side of

William Street and south of Windsor Street (107 N. William Street) (Case

No. 195-2021).

Rezoning property located on the south side of Vandiver Drive and east of

Centerstate Drive from District PD (Planned Development) to District M-C

(Mixed-use Corridor) (Case No. 255-2021).

Granting the issuance of a conditional use permit to University Centre, LLC

to allow for the construction of a free-standing drive-up ATM facility on

property located at 111 S. Providence Road (Case No. 234-2021).

Vacating a utility easement on Lots 1 and 2 within the plat of MPC Station

#94 located on the east side of Providence Road and north of Locust

Street (Case No. 159-2021).

Authorizing a right of use license permit with Wyndham Ridge Homes

Association for the construction, installation, maintenance and operation of

private neighborhood identification signs within portions of the Thornbrook

Terrace, Abbington Terrace and Leighton Drive rights-of-way.

B321-21

B322-21

B323-21

Authorizing a right of use license permit with Midwest Petroleum Company

for the installation, maintenance and operation of a 12-foot driving lane and

landscaping within a portion of the Providence Road right-of-way.

Authorizing a cooperative agreement with the State of Washington, on

behalf of its Department of Enterprise Services, for the purchase of transit

buses.

Authorizing construction of sanitary sewer rehabilitation project #8 in the

Parkade Boulevard, Lynnwood Drive and Albert-Oakland Park areas;

calling for bids through the Purchasing Division or authoring a contract for

the work using a term and supply contractor.

B324-21

B325-21

Authorizing an intergovernmental cooperative agreement with Boone

County, Missouri and The Curators of the University of Missouri for a

chemical analysis sampling project as it relates to the Hinkson Creek

collaborative adaptive management (CAM) implementation process.

Authorizing an agreement for study services with Midcontinent Independent

System Operator, Inc. to provide an estimate of cost to allow the

interconnection of the Boone Stephens solar facility with the City’s

electrical system at the Bolstad Substation.

B326-21

B327-21

B328-21

Authorizing an amendment and renewal of an intergovernmental user

agreement with St. Louis County, Missouri relating to a prescription drug

monitoring program.

Authorizing a contract with the Missouri Department of Elementary and

Secondary Education for the Healthy Families Missouri Home Visiting

program.

Authorizing a memorandum of understanding with Office of State Courts

Administrator to establish guidelines for participation in the debt collection

and tax offset programs.

X. REPORTS

REP70-21

Honorary Street Naming Policy.

Community Development Director Tim Teddy provided a staff report.

TEDDY: Council might recall back in December, we had done

not naming the street itself, but putting secondary street sign in someone’s

memory or in honor of place perhaps or an event. So that's what I’m referring to

with the term honorary street signs. And, when we had that discussion the

a report on this idea of

feedback that

of possibilities for individuals or organizations that might want to propose

either in somebody's honor or again to commemorate maybe

use as an example -- we have historic Price Tandy, which you’ve seen on College,

took away from council was you’d kind of like to see sort of

matrix

name,

historic place, and I

which we were talking about just

have those differently colored

little while ago tonight. College Avenue -- we

think they’re blue secondary signs underneath

College indicating historic Price or Tandy because in the historical town plats, that’s

what those segments of College were called. So, there's an example for you. And

then, we’ve also heard

think this year, four or five pending requests.

know

Councilperson Thomas had one last year, and so that would be another example.

And then, you see in MoDOT’s area, you’ve seen where they’ve honored fallen

veterans on Stadium Boulevard. That’s another example of this program. Those

aren't conventional street signs, but because it’s

high -- expressway right-of-way,

they can put them on those standards along the roadside so the traveling public can

see the names of those veterans. So we just wanted to give you

suggested framework for processing these. One of the requests we have is from

neighborhood association that wants to name an alley, and

provided that correspondence as well. So that would be an example, but not

secondary sign. That would be primary sign because the alley right now had no

name. So that would run through little bit of different track. We’d prepare an

framework --

think council was

ordinance for council, but we’d probably start all these with the council, so you’d

have an opportunity to weigh in on any concerns you might have, and then of

course, you could propose these honorary names yourselves as you’re contacted by

constituents that have these ideas.

SKALA: That was

bit of the question

had. Looking over this matrix, obviously

there were kind of three categories in the eligible applicant condition, and two of

those were, more or less, independent of the council. The last one had some

involvement with the city council in terms of

street names and so on. But eventually the city council has the last word on these

things anyway. Is there reason why is this just to facilitate the administrative

I guess it was a honorary or memorial

process to make this easier?

TEDDY: Well, really just so you can see some of the differences because --

I won’t

say it’s

a frequently asked question, but it seems to be becoming a little bit more

common that folks are asking -- can they either change

one, or can they name something that’s not yet having

street name, can they add

name, how to pick it. Our

role is to do

a technical review to tell you if it -- we see any issues from a

wayfinding standpoint. We do have an awful lot of street names in play already so

we try to avoid exactly duplicating names that are already on the primary street

signs, especially, but even to name

little bit of confusion if you duplicate a street name that’s in use somewhere else.

FOWLER: Yes, thank you. Mr. Teddy, since I’ve been councilperson, there’s been

three requests that have come to me that think have also come to you. One was

the honorary naming of the alley that runs alongside the Wabash Station as Wabash

Alley as place-finding or place-making, and so if they wanted to continue with

secondary sign sometimes that can create

that, they would go under the third category, and then they’d work through the

process going through that?

TEDDY: Yes, that’s the never before named, right?

FOWLER: I think it has a name.

TEDDY: That alley?

FOWLER:

I think so, and they wanted -- but they wanted to put an honorary name

on it. They didn't want to have to readdress those businesses that were addressed

to it, but just to give it some place-making.

TEDDY:

very small platted alley downtown that has

secondary we discussed there -- the staff did push back on that name just because

of Wabash up in the Vandiver Avenue area. That’s public street. We did capital

improvement project there in Public Works this year. think there was some

think we just have Alley

and then there’s -- It’s called Lancaster. It’s

name. But, yeah, think the idea of

feeling that even though we got the Wabash Station in site of that particular alley,

you know, that there might be some confusion there, but that’s something that can

certainly be proposed as a secondary name.

FOWLER: I’ll ask them if they’re still interested in pursuing that.

TEDDY: Yeah, yeah.

was displayed on a building.

FOWLER: And then my next question is the alley that does not have

Ridgeway Neighborhood Association, and that’s one that the

I know they have a branding there -- the shops at Wabash Alley

name in the

neighborhood

association is interesting, interested in honoring Eric Williams, who’s no longer

with us, who was longtime neighborhood leader. And so that would go through

the first category because it’s currently unnamed. Correct?

TEDDY: That’s correct.

FOWLER: And so, is there anything in particular the neighborhood association needs

to do in addition to following these steps across or -- obviously they have to come

to you and express their request. Is that how they format that? What happens

there?

TEDDY: Yeah,

letter. We’ll probably have some dialogue with them about what specific name

would you like on the sign. We’d like to run that through staff technical review

I think we have a letter so we could start that process based on that

though just so, you know, there’s no unforeseen issues. We’d want to report to

council how many sign posts are involved, what might happen in the future with

that once it’s name. One thought is -- certainly there’s no alley addresses or

buildings that are ready for alley addresses, but with ADUs and other things like

that we might want to anticipate that there might be an address on that alley once

named so that’s where you’d want to try to pick

name that doesn't duplicate Williams street for example.

a version of the late Mr. Williams’

FOWLER: Sure. And, my last example

right through there, and that is rear Coats, which does have

runs along the first five houses that were built for Cullimore Cottages. So,

think hits the middle ring or middle stripe

name, but which also

don’t

know -- that would be, probably be, the Land Trust that would come forward with

that recommendation in cooperation with the neighborhood association.

TEDDY: It gets

remembers some of these processes. It’s two tracks. It goes to the Planning

Commission for public hearing if there's not unanimous consent to particular

name, and then they have to bring -- then council has to have hearing on it if

there is not unanimous consent. If there is -- it can -- believe if we get all property

little more complicated when it’s an existing name, and council

owners along the frontage that’s affected, we can take an ordinance to council for

consideration.

FOWLER: Thank you for this chart. It’s very helpful.

TEDDY: You’re welcome. Thank you.

SKALA: Yes, Mr. Thomas.

THOMAS: So there was -- the request that you referenced to me was for

already that’s already named, just west of West Boulevard near Stadium, and

street

think

the request, maybe you can confirm this, was to not to change the name, but to add

an honorary name under the -- which

remembering right.

think was Prospect Street if I’m

TEDDY: Yeah, that’s -- yes.

THOMAS: Was it your recollection that the request was add an honorary name

rather than change the street?

TEDDY: Yes.

THOMAS: So that would be the third row here.

TEDDY: Yes.

THOMAS: That wouldn’t change anybody’s address. They would still have the U.S.

Postal Service address of Prospect Street.

TEDDY: Yeah, and you’ll see cities -- we had -- we pulled the policy from the City of

New Orleans, and they had

commemorate some historical figures with honorary John Doe Way kind of thing.

Yeah, so, yeah, that can be done as well. mean we have to track all these things,

though, and think that's why we kind of want to get council's input. How big do we

want this program to get? It would be cost of the city to manufacture the signs,

nice illustrated document that showed how they

mount them, and that kind of thing so that’s a consideration.

THOMAS: I mean there could be a charge to the applicant.

TEDDY: There could be, yeah.

THOMAS: So on your proposal here, it says that adjacent property owners are

notified, and presumably if there are objections or concerns, that would all come

before the city council before

a judgment’s made. Okay. Have you -- that was the

Hoyt family. Have you talked with them at all?

TEDDY: I have not. My only discussions have been with you sir.

THOMAS: Okay, well

-- that this would be an ordinance that we would -- or is it just an internal policy?

TEDDY: Yeah, think he wanted to see kind of framework. I’m not thinking of it as

I will, I will get back to them. So what’s the next step with this

something we’d necessarily codify, more of an administrative procedure.

THOMAS: I mean it looks good to me.

SKALA: That’s kind of what the advice was. The staff was seeking some direction

from the city council as to kind of whether to proceed, and we can discuss about the

size of this and such. This reminds me

a little bit of Geyser Boulevard, right, which

used to be the former Rice Road. So, I’m just trying to assess the intent of the

council. If there tends to be some consensus here, we can just go ahead and

proceed with the -- I like the matrix, and I think it’s useful. Thank you.

THOMAS: Alright. Thanks Tim.

REP71-21

Commission on Human Rights: City's Emergency Warming Center

Proposal.

Commission on Human Rights Chair Amanda Hinnant provided a report.

SKALA: It has to do with the Commission on Human Rights, and their letter, which

details changing the temperature for -- any comments, any questions, any

comments?

FOWLER: Their chairperson is here. May we invite her forward?

SKALA: By all means, would you like to make any comments?

HINNANT: Hi everyone, I’m Amanda Hinnant.

serve as the Chair of the Human

Rights Commission, and we are recommending that the city test run an increase in

the cutoff temperature for the Wabash emergency overnight center from 9 degrees

to 18 degrees for this winter. We did the math, and the 18 degree threshold cutoff

this past winter would have only meant the Wabash center was open for an

additional 7 days, and so what we’d like to see is whether the city could sustain the

additional staffing and resource needs with

slightly more humane temperature

for the cutoff. We think that this modest increase is warranted for the safety and

dignity of our fellow citizens who deal with homelessness. So, I’m happy to answer

or try to answer any questions that I can.

SKALA: Any questions? Ms. Waner.

WANER: So, the first bit of this discussion happened when

that. don't remember at that time or if it’s happened since? Do you have

idea as to the costs that are associated?

HINNANT: don’t. We don't really have visibility on that part of the budget. My

understanding is that requires, think, overtime pay for police officer, resources

for the reportable toilets. I’m Wabash, the center, has utilities. think this past

winter the range of people who used it over the -- think it was 11 days that it was

was still with you on

good

open -- was between three people and 19 people, you know, during that really cold

stretch in February.

WANER: Is that something that we can ask a staff report on?

SKALA: Well, that’s - yeah, we can, we can do that. We can refer this to the city side.

noted in your letter that you were talking about

a temporary request so that this

could be evaluated. mean it seems perfectly reasonable to me, and we could get

that kind of information from the city staff to be able to move forward with this

should that be warranted.

SKALA: Mr. Thomas.

THOMAS: Amanda, you said that there would have been 7 additional nights that it

was open. What was the actual number of nights it was open?

HINNANT: The actual number last year that it was open was [inaudible] 11 nights.

THOMAS: 11, and it would increase that to 18.

HINNANT: Exactly -- based on the historical data about weather and temperatures

overnight.

THOMAS: And this is at the same time as Room at the Inn is open so this is

essentially overflow on those very cold nights for people who may choose not to go

to Room at the Inn -

HINNANT: Or are unable to.

gather some people aren't able to go for various

issues they have, and so they don't have anywhere. They can't go to any of the

other amazing shelters that we have in place and so they’re really literally left out

in the cold.

THOMAS: Yeah. Well

winters ago, and

really appreciate staff starting this program

couple of

would support this experiment with higher temperature

realizing that there will be more resources required.

SKALA: I’m sensing there's support to at least refer -- yes.

GLASCOCK: It’s not possible at the Wabash, and the reason is is I’m violating the

federal request that we not use it for that now at 9 degrees so, you know,

additional staffing and additional days would probably set them to maybe risking

our federal funds. So,

I would ask that we study this first before we move forward.

Also we don't let them use the bathrooms because last year they destroyed our

bathrooms and we had to redo them. The people that use the Wabash are people

and citizens that can't go anywhere else. They’re drug users. They use drugs in

there. We have to kick them out. We’ve had to bring in bathrooms, portable toilets

-- they destroy those. These are not people that -- or citizens that go to Room at the

Inn. They can’t go tot Room at the Inn. They won’t be allowed in, and so this is very

difficult for us to maintain at 9 degrees. It would be almost impossible to do

another 7 days especially at the Wabash.

SKALA: Mr. Glascock, just

question. Relating some of these issues and some of

these problems, and you it say it may risk some of -- even federal funding to some

degree. Are we in violation now? Is it risking any kind of --

GLASCOCK:

possibility, but we’ve been doing this now for at least three years since I’ve been

city manager. We did it before that. think one or two years. We just, we just -- we

I don't think -- I think if you increase the frequency, yes, you run the

did it with the airport to start with, safety officers. But I’m telling you it’s difficult to

manage.

HINNANT: What is it we are in violation of at Wabash?

GLASCOCK: Federal funds -- federal funds paid for the Wabash.

PETERS: So are we not supposed to use that at all?

GLASCOCK: We talked to them, you know, when we started doing this last year or

the year before last -- an increase wanted to happen. Mr. Trapp asked for it, and we

asked -- we talked to the FTA folks and they said we really shouldn't be using it for

this.

PETERS: But they’d let us do it for a short period.

GLASCOCK: Transit funds. Sorry, transit funds.

PETERS: Do we have anyplace else we could go?

SKALA: Yeah, that’s the next question.

GLASCOCK: We don't right now. We looked at the Armory. Mike has programming in

the Armory every day, starting really early, so it’s difficult to do that too. It also

goes into the night. So, the Armory --it’s always been talked about, but we’ve

always had programming in it.

SKALA: Maybe we’re coming back to ARPA funds -- the ARPA discussion.

GLASCOCK: Those are the things that’s going to be discussed in those RFPs for sure.

WANER: I think I would still like to see a staff report.

GLASCOCK: And,

agree, but

don't think we can start it right now.

I think you need

to see staff report first.

need to reach out to Federal Transit Authority

administration and talk to them and get feedback from them.

SKALA: Let's do that, and then come back to the council with a report.

HINNANT: Thank you, and

I just want to add several other cities saw people die this

last winter with that extreme cold. Luckily, we didn't, but we just don't want that to

have happen obviously.

SKALA: Thank you.

THOMAS: Thank you.

REP72-21

REP73-21

Administrative Public Improvement Project: Shepard Boulevard Park -

School Tennis Court Improvements.

Discussion shown with REP73-21.

Administrative Public Improvement Project: Indian Hills Park Basketball

Court Improvements.

Parks and Recreation Director Mike Griggs provided a staff report.

GRIGGS: Yeah, in fact the next two are really major maintenance items funded by

our 2015 park sales tax. Resurfacing the tennis courts at Shepard, just really

basically

we will line them with pickleball lines, so it will take about two weeks. The Indian

Hills basketball court same thing -- that one there is an asphalt overlay. two-inch

- just redoing -- filling the cracks, leveling off, putting them back in. And

overlay of asphalt for 25,000, and that one [inaudible] -- replace the backboards and

rims on that one. Both great projects that are needed to help improve the play of

those two courts.

SKALA: And

backyard so -- and as far as the pickleball lines -- I’ve gotten in

tennis and pickleball, but

Albert-Oakland Park. And

like both of them. Particularly, Indian Hills --

mean that's in my

lot of trouble with

did see some photos or the renderings of

was in favor of increasing the number of pickle ball

courts, but I’m very glad that there is

lines on it there.

dedicated tennis court without pickleball

GRIGGS: Yeah, so. Alright. Thank you.

SKALA: So, thank you.

REP74-21

Amendment to the FY 2021 Annual Budget - Intra-Departmental Transfer of

Funds.

City Manager John Glascock provided as staff report.

GLASCOCK: These are for last fiscal year. It’s the last pay period so these happened

during that fiscal year.

SKALA: Any comments by the council on any of these? Fine, thank you

XI. GENERAL COMMENTS BY PUBLIC, COUNCIL AND STAFF

Rick Shanker, Rebecca Shaw, Eugene Elkin, Dani Perez, and Chimene

Schwach spoke, and the Council discussed various topics.

SHANKER: I’m Rick Shanker.

I live at 1829 Cliff Drive. There are several people that

may want to speak from the Gans Creek Allies.

they may come up when you talk about that. Thank you.

I just wanted to announce that, and

SHAW: Rebecca Shaw, 2615 Vail Drive.

about the needs survey that was in the August 4th minutes of the Housing

Commission. So, there -- this -- overwhelmingly, it was surprising Ward

I came tonight kind of prepared to talk a little

respondents were the majority of respondents to that survey this year. And then, if

we looked at what people rated as their highest needs, 69 percent of respondents

said

24-hour facility for unhoused members of the public, 62 percent said rental

vouchers for the homeless, 62 percent said preservation of existing housing

through rehab. These were their high priorities -- and then construction of new

affordable owner-occupied homes. So as we are talking about ARPA funds,

that this data reinforces what the public has been saying -- is that our unhoused and

unsheltered population and affordable housing seems to be high priority for our

public. So it’s really good to have numbers put to that. want to kind of come back

around to the letter from the Human Rights Commission, and say that surely we can

think outside the box. That’s, you know, Wabash is downtown location that is

accessible to lot of people, but we also have churches and other buildings in that

same area that if the city could reach out to them -- know that Room at the Inn

works with lot of lot of religious organizations in town. Surely we can find

some sort of space in an accessible area, or if it’s not in an accessible area, offer

transit to location outside of downtown where these people may be able to go.

do believe that that change in temperature -- those 7 days could be life or death for

somebody. mean if -- we do have people that are out on the streets in these

severe weathers, and think it would be in our city's best interest to try to find

resource for them. Thank you.

think

- a

ELKIN: Eugene Elkin, 3406 Range Line.

thought tonight we’d learn about what

happened to all the money that would be allocated. When will that happen?

SKALA: Where will that happen?

PETERS: Well, we had a meeting from 6-7 -- if that’s okay Karl.

SKALA: By all means.

PETERS: We -- our pre-council meeting from 6-7 tonight, we talked about the ARPA

money, which is that $12.5 million of which we’ve received $12 million of it, $12.5

million. So, we talked about that and we talked about moving forward with getting

consensus groups together to talk about the homeless, you know getting

homeless shelter,

permanent homeless shelter, moving on with mental health

issues, and, let me see, community violence, and there was a fourth one.

SKALA: And workforce development, I think.

PETERS: And workforce development so those are the four

THOMAS: And mental health, mental health services.

PETERS: Yeah, mental health. So there were four areas that we were going to start

working on now, and perhaps -- we did not come up with any amount of money for

any of them, but we said we need to move forward to determine what we need

and then determine how much we need for that. And then we also talked about

having

a longer term process for the other $12.5 million that we get next year to

have more of

issues there are.

public engagement than we’ve already had to discuss what other

ELKIN: So will it maybe make the newspaper one day in the next few months or

what are we thinking?

PETERS: Yeah, hopefully in the next few months. Hopefully in the next six weeks to

two months, we’ll have -- we’re trying to move forward with a plan.

ELKIN: I’m not rushing.

the only reason I’m asking.

I just thought this was to be announced tonight, and that’s

PETERS: I’m rushing. I just [inaudible] move forward.

ELKIN: wouldn't have had to ask the question if somebody would’ve just thought

to say something. This has just come to me tonight. The city owns assets, and we do

not want them breaking federal laws. What about -- in the news we are about to

get,

I believe its three brand new buses that run on natural gas. Well, does that

mean there’s three buses that are near the end of their usage? Does that mean -- in

your all's discussion, could be parked on the Wabash parking lot, and running or not

running. That's getting really sad, but if it’s not running, the human body does

produce

a lot of heat in an enclosed environment [inaudible] big bus. It’s not very

nice for me to say, but it’s the idea that maybe these buses do run and they can

produce heat. If they can, and if John can look into that measure and not have

something illegal going on. It’s like you know it ain't just Eugene. You’ve had

several people get up here and say something about the homeless, and it is getting

really sad. We had

sleep, he’s gone. And not one of us understands some nights they don't sleep,

they’re scared to death, the weather conditions, the list goes on. just had to ask

a gentlemen show up here tonight, and I think from lack of

about the money, and maybe someone could discuss assets that are just sitting.

Maybe there's something that’s usable and nobody’s thought of it yet. Thank you.

PEREZ: Hi, I’m Danny Perez.

about -- was it the four or five topics of trying to get on the ball and do something

right away. My concern is that -- I’m part of the mental health bracket, and was

I wasn't planning on speaking, but when Peters talked

once practically homeless, and my concern is if we go forward with these projects --

or that there are projects without any real input, that you guys are looking more at

productivity versus the whole person’s happiness and well-being. And, I’m not

talking about happiness in the sense of

talk about homeless shelter -- well what does that mean? Is it just

place with beds and food or is this place that also will have like,

place where people can have recreation and things like that. Like

person -- what does it take for person to be able to have the

fleeting mood, but like you guys want to

space with

don’t know,

zen center and

what’s -- what is

means to pursue happiness like it says in our constitution. And, so, I’m -- just was --

kind of concerned that if you guys -- when you talk about pursuing, you know,

taking care of our homeless population and the mental health populations and all

these other populations greatly affected by COVID, especially people of color, that

you think not just of productivity as in how many can help, but how do we help

person overall. And think that's when people say projects over people. They’re

not talking about actual projects, but actually the well-being of people over

productivity so that was just is something wanted you guys to be mindful of as you

guys are moving forward, you know, with this process. Thank you.

SCHWACH: Chimene Schwach again, 1232 Sunset Drive.

had the pleasure of

hearing Councilman Waner on Friday speak to Muleskinners about her proposed

plan. did not get to -- I’ve not heard the audio yet for tonight's work session.

Ended up having to pick up kid from football early so -- but wanted to say that

really like her plan. felt like the plan that she presented to us for the first $12

million because it seems like -- well would like to have robust public discussion

on that money for six months or so. It seems like that horse, you know, might be

out of the barn already so do want to emphasize that think the housing the

sheltered and using our equity plan and that public health plan, and putting that in

place seems like fairly fair process with some data behind it, and then the second

allotment of ARPA funds that were are to get that we start robust public

discussion in planning for that so that next late spring we have plan that the --

chance to comment on and

that Columbia citizens from everywhere have had

participate in. So, thank you.

WANER:

thank you. So in relation to the work session from earlier,

us have similar work session for the surplus funds that we have. There are

swear

did not lobby people to say my name this many times tonight, but

would really like to see

number of really wonderful projects that we have the opportunity to impact that

may not fit neatly into the ARPA buckets. Expanding the CCUA project being one of

those, and Big Brothers Big Sisters -- they want

families in your district and in mine that are hugely impacted by lack of childcare

and education access. So, would like to see if there’s consensus to put together

a north campus for all of those

some sort of work session for those surplus funds because we are going to continue

getting feedback and input of projects that we could be making big investments in.

So that's my first thing.

SKALA:

certainly would endorse that. We’re not only talking about ARPA funding,

the $12.5 million we’ve received, but another trench next year that has to be spent

within four years. But there are surpluses that we’ve been talking about for some

period of time. We’re in the enviable position of

a small city here to have kind of an

embarrassment of riches in many ways. mean, at one time or another, the

guidelines suggests that we are supposed to have 16 to 18 percent in some of the

budgets, maybe 20, as much as 20 or 25 percent in water and light. We’ve exceeded

those goals so we have considerable amount of surplus money. It’s not going to

waste. It is making money, but we need to relieve the pressure on any inclination

to increase rates because that too negatively affects folks. Maybe utilities

assistance -- there’s lots of things that we can do in terms of this dichotomy. Just

note -- I’ll take this point of privilege here -- this business about people versus

projects -- I don't -- I really think that’s a bit of a false dichotomy. I think all of these

projects are for people.

matter of fact, think these are all people projects. There are no real projects, and

the kinds of things that we’re talking about, and wish some of you folks could have

I mean it just depends on how you emphasize this. As a

been there to participate, and you can listen to the audio of some of the work

sessions -- trying to address some of these genuine needs for those folks that have

been most affected, negatively affected. And, we’ve settled on

few things

moving forward with maybe some RFPs to look into this kind of thing, but there’s

all kinds of issues here -- utility assistance. When we talk about broadband -- now

that’s

necessarily mean that we’re putting fiber in the ground as

we’re providing people the opportunity for their children to learn in

program, but how we spend the funds on broadband -- it doesn't

project. It could be that

virtual

environment because of the broadband that is necessary to do that, and we could

offer some sorts of subsidies to make those kinds of things affordable so there are

lots of things that we can do that get cast as

a program, but really could be more

directly -- affect the folks in terms of their needs. Utility assistance is another one

of the examples. Some of the folks came up here to talk about housing during very

cold weather.

I think we do need to explore as many of those possibilities that we

have and not just take, you know, no for an answer that we’ve run out of space

because I think we can do better than that. But, at any rate, I just want to assure you

that the council is not just thinking without any data about projects and numbers --

those kinds of numbers. We are really thinking about the human element in this

whole thing.

SKALA: Mr. Pitzer.

PITZER: So back to your suggestion. We would need, you know, some information,

alright.

-- we just finished the fiscal year -- does it make sense to get an accounting, you

know of -- kind of draw line in the sand, you know, for the end of the fiscal year,

and get full accounting of where we stand? That would take while, probably,

you know, end of November, say, before you get all those numbers. And we can get

I don't know how urgently you would want to move. Would it make sense to

the information and then, you know, talk about if we want to schedule

session or what we want to do after we have the information.

work

WANER:

mean,

lean on you for that with your financial expertise, so if that seems

would be supportive of that.

conversation as funding

a lot of different things that we’re getting emails about, and so I’d rather

the most informed way to go about doing something,

just wanted to be clear that this exists and it’s been

stream for

have that conversation, as informed as we can be.

PETERS: would agree. I’d like it to be informed. It would probably be

a good idea

to wait until we’ve actually closed out the books for the last year so the end of

November. The only thing that came to my mind was the already confusion we had

with trying to do the budget and getting lots of public input on the ARPA funds

when we were doing the budget, but

I don't see a way to finish the ARPA stuff

before we address the extra -- the excess funding we have, and

to look at that. So, it would probably be worth at least getting

to decide where -- how we want to look at that.

agree we do need

report and starting

FOWLER:

have several things, thank you. So the first thing that I’d like to ask

joint session, joint work session,

council for is an agreement that we could host

with the Broadband Task Force. Since the times that I’ve had front yard, backyard,

side yard meetings -- and there's an increasing number of citizens that are

attending those meetings and then bringing me their comments and concerns --

I’ve started reading the minutes of the Broadband Task Force. And so

ask -- there's lot of information there -- so wanted to ask council if we could put

on our schedule a joint work session with the Broadband Task Force.

SKALA: would endorse that idea as co-chair of the Broadband Planning Task Force.

I wanted to

I think that's a great idea.

FOWLER: What do we need to do the move forward Mr. City Manager.

GLASCOCK: I’ll have it on -- you want it on a pre-council?

PITZER: Sure, yeah.

GLASCOCK: I’ll have it scheduled.

FOWLER: Thank you so much.

FOWLER: What

at changing rates for health insurance premiums for employees and their families

who remain unvaccinated when they could be vaccinated. am concerned about

I asked of Director Browning was whether or not the city has looked

the low rates of vaccination among city employees. I’m also -- in my world, about

every ten days somebody that is connected to my employer and our network of

employees dies of COVID. It’s heartbreaking to watch families go through that

when we have an opportunity to further encourage that vaccination. And so,

don't

variety of strategies out

wanted to put to council -- if we could ask

know what the right answer is, but

there that are being discussed, and so

I know that there’s a

the city for the report on where they are with that idea and what other strategies

they’re discussing, given the low vaccination rates among our city employees.

SKALA: A request for report.

FOWLER: It is, but

forward.

need to have consensus of council in order to move that

WANER: I would be supportive of a report.

THOMAS: I agree.

SKALA: Yes.

FOWLER: do you have what you need, Mr. Glascock?

GLASCOCK: Yes.

FOWLER: Okay, thank you.

FOWLER: So my next item, which

city pick up yard waste at two particular dates this fall, and what

onto that, as First Ward effort, to look at people in the community that clearly are

having difficulty, picking up their yards. You know, you can always tell after all the

leaves fall down and all the branches are still there. That's good indication that

someone doesn't have the capacity to bag their own yard waste and bundle their

sticks. And, Reverend Gray, in the last week, has done project for senior citizen

have some joy about is the idea that we will as

want to do is tie

that was unable to deal with over-growth and bushes and brush on their property,

and so I’m going to reach out to Reverend Gray and see if he would like to partner

with me and others in doing that, but to do that we need to get some greater

certainty about when those yard pickup dates would be and whether or not the

waste would be going just to the landfill or if it also could be diverted to the mulch

sites. And so,

to have get moving on planning if I’m going to mobilize folks to help even though

do have pickup truck, and as of tomorrow, have trailer. I’m so excited. I’m

buying used trailer for my truck so, mean we can haul some things, but we

city-wide mulch pickup effort. May ask where we are with

I wanted to bring that to your attention as a nudge because I’m going

certainly can't manage

that Mr. Glascock.

GLASCOCK: Trying to have a report on that next time for that.

FOWLER: Okay. Thank you.

FOWLER: We had our work session next door, and I’m grateful that we did our best

to record that audio, but we had number of folks come in to the meeting

wondering what happened, and thinking they could watch the video. Mr. Skala, you

referenced that you relied on the video in watching hearing of the Planning and

Zoning Commission as part of your preparation for tonight.

I would like to ask us to

stay in this room for work session because we have the ability for both video and

audio recording in this room.

GLASCOCK: I’d like to comment on that.

FOWLER: Yes sir.

GLASCOCK: So pre-council’s have historically been for staff and council to work

together on, and so,

conducive to conversation like 1A/1B is

in the room, and we’re able to talk to one another one-on-one. This is more formal.

People don’t feel comfortable talking in here as staff can tell you. don’t know

about council, but it -- found tonight’s meeting much more conversational than

I’ve ever heard in this room about any pre-council so like it in the other room for

staff reason, not necessarily for public. It’s for council interaction with staff is what

pre-council’s for. If you want to start having all your meetings in this room, we

would just tell you this room is more formal and doesn’t be

like we sit in horseshoe and everybody is

just ought to extend the council meeting to 6:00 and start the council meeting

because that’s what we’re doing really.

FOWLER: I understand your point of view, yes.

SKALA: Just

comment on that.

rue the day -- you know, I’m not trying to be

rue the day that we used go on retreats and we used to invite

kind of -- I’m inclined to agree with the city

manager, but

historian here, but

can’t help it -- but

the press and the city manager and the entire staff, and usually that was -- we do

that now in here -- we do that on the dais, but it’s different than it used to be. It

used to be that there was

and the press benefited from this too, and it wasn’t

travel or going to some exclusive resort. mean you could do this almost any place,

but what it has morphed into being -- it’s always on stage, and it’s on this stage, and

even have to rue the day that -- when you know, love this building, and I’m glad

we have all these, these facilities and so on, but the old building, when we used to

have almost horseshoe shaped dais was much more conducive to the

conversation and being able to recognize people when -- and the ebb and flow of

it. mean it kind of takes all the way back about the argument about Vietnam, and

whether the table ought to be round or not for the negotiations. It really

psychologically makes difference, and think think we would lose lot. mean

as long as we can record it and we can get the message out there and the meetings

are open, unless they’re closed meeting, but in most cases, they’re open unless

it’s personnel -- to invite people that they can sit and listen. understand it’s

somewhat limited, but would hate to give up that last vestige of the conversation

time for socializing, really socializing and exchanging,

matter of spending dollars on

that we sometimes need in addition to the formal one when we’re always on

camera.

PITZER: No,

available in

agree with that.

think there are some increased collegiality that’s

more informal setting. You know, I’m willing to think about it on

case by case basis, you know, where it may be relevant to, but

particular problem with the current arrangement.

I don’t have

FOWLER: I have two more on my list.

PETERS: And I have some.

FOWLER: So, Councilperson Peters has arranged an initial discussion about

to work on some changes to the UDC. wanted to ask, after that meeting -- I'm not

sure -- think there's need to do some joint planning in this area of the north

group

central neighborhood that abuts Benton Stephens, and we heard three speakers

tonight ask us to do that. I’m not sure how to proceed except that I'm going to wait

for the outcome of your meeting and what you talk about, and then probably come

back at the end of next meeting to talk about -- and will have consulted with our

neighborhood leaders by that time too. But, thought that was really important

point that three speakers made this evening about the area surrounding Walt’s and

all the redevelopment that’s taking place there with more to come, as drive down

Fay Street. And then last, wanted to address the request of the Gans Creek

conservation overlay district. Maybe perhaps Councilperson Peters has that on her

list, but wanted to make sure we took up their request for what they asked for at

the beginning of council and that they're still hanging around for, and don't know

if another -- if that transitions to where you are, Betsy? I’m happy to send it over

your way.

PETERS: It was on my list.

FOWLER: Well, good.

SKALA: If you don't mind, I'll recognize Ms. Peters.

PETERS: It's way too late for that, but anyway, is that okay if I --

SKALA: By all means.

PETERS: I don’t want to miss Mr. Pitzer. He’s -- he might be next in line. So, yes, I did

hearing the speaker earlier this evening, I'd like to see if we could get

together to look at that. wanted to know what people thought about an 18-month

was asked to bring that up also, so thank you for segueing into that. After

committee

moratorium on bringing properties into the city, if that's reasonable or

unreasonable, and just what you all thought about that presentation and if you'd be

willing to move that on.

SKALA: If, if --

about moratoriums, whether its development moratorium or land moratoriums and

whatever, that think requires little bit more discussion than just coming to some

sort of consensus agreement on the dais at the end of meeting to -- so certainly

am very sympathetic to this whole idea. As matter of fact that was part of the

I mean, I'm willing to entertain those ideas, but when we start talking

whole request for the additional funding for land acquisition with that mechanism

that Ms. Dokken suggested at one time or another, and we've had some assurances

that that fund is going to be replaced, so these ideas that Ms. Weaver talked about

think are very fertile ideas and would love to continue that discussion and perhaps

get involved in the appointment of an ad hoc committee to study this kind of thing

and so on. That's going to take some preparation by the staff in order to bring that

back to us, but I would like to look into it personally.

PETERS: So, do you think it would be like

recommend?

a staff report? What would you guys

SKALA: Well, the staff -- you know, usually what happens is you make some -- the

staff makes some recommendations for board or commission and the makeup and

so on, and puts it in front of us and we can come to some agreement -- vote it up or

down for particular -- or make amendments to it if we decide we need more

members or less members or what the makeup is. That kind of process

would be the one to select to move this forward.

think

PETERS: Do we have enough consensus to do that?

THOMAS: Yeah,

committee, and

certainly support moving forward and setting up this ad-hoc

think the moratorium would be one of the things they would

recommend and we would maybe, if we choose to, adopt at the same time as the

overlay district to allow time -- to create that time and space. So as far as the

committee’s concerned, you know,

the purpose of the committee would be or at least

know, points that they -- that were presented earlier tonight. There needs to be --

think there has to be -- we kind of know what

certainly support the five, you

how do we decide who’s going to be on the committee, representatives of

particular groups, and process for selecting the people to be on the committee,

time frame, and frequency of meetings and so on. Those would be the main things

so think one or two people from council should work with staff to develop --

Nancy, would it be a resolution or ordinance to set up an ad hoc committee?

THOMPSON: In Columbia we have not done ad hoc committees. We have done task

forces, we have done, you know, boards, commissions.

I would suggest an ad hoc

committee is much like task force, and so we don't start confusing our language,

would suggest a task force and that can be mayoral or council appointed.

THOMAS: And would it need a resolution or an ordinance?

THOMPSON: It can go with a resolution.

THOMAS: With a resolution, yes. So it's a relatively simple process.

THOMPSON: And the other thing --

I just want to jump in before we throw around

the word moratorium. The word moratorium is not something we use in local

government. We use the phrase administrative delay. Moratoriums are not legally

authorized by municipalities so if we’re going to start administrative delays --

administrative delays, there are very strict requirements on those and limits, and

you have to be making progress towards some administrative act that would -- is in

danger, imminent danger, of having

-- of being compromised and it has to be

under active study, so that's why you would have your task force and put those

things in place, but to your point, Councilman Thomas, that's what would happen.

THOMAS: So Betsy, if you’re going to take the lead on this, then you would work

with staff to develop the details of that resolution

I think, and what you would --

what would be then brought back to council to vote on, hopefully within

a meeting

or two.

SKALA: Yes, Mr. Pitzer.

PITZER: So is this committee different than the other committee that you're putting

together?

PETERS: Yes.

THOMAS: It's different.

PITZER: And, okay.

PETERS: They're just a multiplying.

PITZER: Both to deal with the zoning issues? Both dealing with the zoning code.

PETERS: I'm sorry?

PITZER: They're both dealing with the zoning issues.

PETERS: Sadly, yes.

PITZER: Both of your ad-hoc committees?

PETERS: Yes, well, the task force and the ad-hoc committee, which might become

task force.

SKALA: I'd be happy to help you with that.

PITZER: Okay.

SKALA:

I have a bit of a background with the Environment and Energy Commission

for many, many years and it's now changed, but nonetheless,

acquisition and all the rest of it, I'd be happy to help with that.

mean, this land

PITZER: So the only comment I'll make on this issue is, you know,

sympathetic to the goals. It's actually fairly complex issue because we're talking

about applying city's zoning code to areas outside of the city or, you know, areas

I think we're

that potentially may become part of the city one day. So it would behoove us to

sort of think through the potential unintended consequences of doing that. And

what I'm thinking of specifically is that an administrative delay on an annexation

into the city may accelerate development that happens of outside of the city limits

under which case we have absolutely no control over what happens, so there's

question of whether or not you want control, and if you do, then how you go about

exercising it.

THOMAS:

I think that would be a very good topic for the committee or the task force

to think through.

SKALA: Yeah, that's exactly right, that’s exactly right. That's what the task force

should be about.

PETERS: I had one other issue.

SKALA: Sure.

PETERS: Just to bring it up. You know,

redrawing the census lines if we need to and how we need to go about that, and

apparently in the past, of course, we've had committee that's done that. This

time, it looked like the most we had was 1,000 people difference in the wards and

that we could maybe just move neighborhood here or there. So asked Mr.

Glascock. He thought we would have report from the GIS guys next time to be

I had asked about the census, you know,

able to look at it and see whether we think that they can be -- we can redistrict this

without really redrawing the wards -- just moving some citizens here or there or if

we need to get

a committee, so I asked him to bring that back in two weeks so we

can decide which way we need to go.

SKALA: Mr. Thomas?

THOMAS: Yeah, that's fine to bring back that report, but

going to support changing the ward boundaries before the filing opens for the next

round of elections, which is in, like, three weeks. So as long as -- so I'll support

I want to be clear, I'm not

process whereby the boundaries will change some time after April and before next

October for that next election cycle.

SKALA: Well, we can talk about those details when - yes, Ms. Fowler.

FOWLER: So

because the magic date of September 30th arrived, when

the federal government would have their dashboard up where the information

would be more easily accessible by census tract. And asked him if we could have

had

conversation with Mr. Glascock today too about the census data

-- we all understood that

meeting where city staff who are knowledgeable, and, of course, there's GIS

people, and, and even people in human services who pay attention to census

tracts, particularly low-income census tracts -- if we could have

a meeting open to

all of our citizens where we talk about the census, what the census data says, how

we interpret it, why it's important, so we put it into context. It only happens every

ten years, and this is one of those things that the League of Women Voters gets

really excited about, and you're

could be others on here I'm unaware of, but

first step since we have passed that date where -- and

government made good on that promise. did not check before today. All of

sudden, it just the whole, you know -- we're into October before

League member, I'm

wanted to suggest that as perhaps

assume that the federal

a League member -- there

realized it.

What about that idea of hosting

others as a first step?

public meeting perhaps in collaboration with

PETERS: We can do that.

PITZER:

I’m not sure what we’re getting, but - not what you said.

PETERS: Could we -- guess would like the report in two weeks just to see about

the public, about just looking at the census, and -- because it appeared to be we did

not need to move very many people, so would like to see that. do agree its --

there's wealth of information in the census data and it would be fun, and I'm sure

I think the first step is whatever we're getting at the next meeting, although

educational, to explore that in the future.

FOWLER: Would be okay if called the League and asked them what their interest

would be? Is that okay with everybody if I do that.

PETERS: Fine with me. The League loves that stuff.

FOWLER: I know, and I love the League.

PETERS: And they're good at it.

FOWLER: Yes, they’re very good at it.

Jeanne.

I think Jeanne is still here too. I’m looking at

SKALA: The Third Ward was within ten of the target number,

joking about trying to gerrymander the third ward to the extent that

some folks that might not care so much for, and think -- almost got

-- so there's ten folks -- I'm just kidding

think, and so

can get rid of

couple of

I was

takers from Ms. Peters and Mr. Pitzer that

about all of this.

PETERS: So will -- if we can get that report back, that’d be good.

SKALA: But they are close, and think we ought to depend upon this report and

then we can -- and make this other request perhaps contingent upon what we find.

PETERS: That's all I had on my list.

SKALA: Mr. Pitzer.

PITZER: Yes, so

I wanted to revisit one issue from our last meeting, and that was the

annexation and zoning of the Old Hawthorn expansion. So we approved the

annexation, we approved the zoning. The design adjustments were defeated, and

then

there was not

question for Nancy,

need concurrent bill or ordinance to go along with it or can the plat sort of stand

on its own if there are revisions to it?

THOMPSON: So would say that one of the reasons why we separated out the

believe we tabled the plat until our next meeting on October 18th because

plat before us without the design adjustments. So this is partially

think -- with the plat coming back at our next meeting, do we

design -- we used to have the design adjustments and the plat both in the same

ordinance, if you recall, and then we started separating those out so that the

council could consider those design adjustments before the plat and then give the

developer an opportunity to go back and revise the plat. So that's one of the

reasons why now you have those as two separate agenda items that come before

you, and you allow the developer

so that the developer can go back and try to make adjustments based upon what

the conversation was. That said, think that at the next meeting, if there continue

to be design adjustments -- don't think you can come back and introduce new bill

a continuance on that plat or a tabling of that plat

or separate bill with design adjustments, but if there are design adjustments that

the council would want to consider that were consistent with what you’d been

presented previously, you could agree to amend the bill approving the plat and add

section to approve the design adjustments as part of that -- to call them out

because that's something that's still been pending. Those design adjustments are

still pending on the document itself. We just would want to make sure that it's

reflected in the language of the ordinance as well, just for clarity purposes if there

are still design adjustments that would remain when it comes back to you.

PITZER: Okay, so we would be --

THOMPSON: Does that make sense?

PITZER: Sort of. So there were three design adjustments that were in the bill that

was defeated, and all three were reflected on the plat, the preliminary plat, that

was proposed at that time. So if there were only one or two of those design

adjustments, you know, based on council feedback from last meeting or if there

was

a new design adjustment added to the originally introduced plat, then the bill

accompanying the plat could be amended to reflect those changes?

THOMPSON: Yes, I think so.

PITZER: And that would be done by us on the evening but, -- on the next meeting?

THOMPSON: Yes. And

would appreciate some advance notice just to make sure

get the wording, at least for your options, if you think that's going to happen.

would like to just make sure that

we can do that.

I get my wording prepared in advance, but I think

PITZER: Okay.

THOMPSON: It should not be an issue, and then -- because you're still -- that plat is

still out there pending with those design adjustments so it would not necessarily

be something new or substantially different that would cause a delay.

PITZER: Right, okay. I think I understand that.

THOMPSON: You couldn't introduce a new bill, but we could amend that bill.

PITZER Okay, thanks.

SKALA: Anyone else?

WANER: One question.

SKALA: Yes.

WANER: Is there historical precedent for us having

County Commission?

a joint meeting with the Boone

SKALA: Actually, there is

typically they're on

bit --

I think I'm going to be gone for this meeting, but

quarterly basis. The city council and the county commission

and the school board and the chamber of commerce get together, and that's coming

up, i think, in October at some point. It's what I remember on my calendar.

GLASCOCK: Well, we haven't had one since COVID.

SKALA: Oh, is that -- that's what got in the way. Typically they were --

GLASCOCK: Typically it's quarterly.

SKALA: I thought I saw one in October. Maybe I’m wrong.

PETERS: Yeah, the 15th of October.

SKALA: That's what I thought.

PETERS: At 8:00. CPS is hosting it.

GLASCOCK: Okay.

SKALA: It's a breakfast and so on and so forth and those groups do get together.

PETERS: Unless they've canceled it, it should be --

SKALA: Unless they’ve canceled it - right.

WANER: Aha, that's what that means, CCCCU.

SKALA: There you go.

PETERS: Because it includes the university.

WANER: Right.

SKALA: That's it then? Well, thank you all for coming and enduring. Sure, go ahead.

SHANKER:

I wanted to assure council that the meeting that we're having with Peters

-- as you notice, we came up, not just neighborhood associations, but people that

live in the neighborhood are going to meet. It's not an official task force. It's just in

relationship to what she presented to you guys, and as far as an official report,

we're going to take notes and we’ll get back to you. And the second thing

I wanted

to mention about -- the difference between moratorium and administrative delay

-- I hope we can consult with Nancy as we have in the past on other topics so we get

the wording right for things in the future.

PETERS: Sounds good.